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post #76 of 7519

Moon Audio has $500 GCHA's. I can get the Burson $600-650 from a local dealer. But I have no interest in arguing, I won't deny the Concerto is a great, and plus I shouldn't be arguing against my #1 choice anyways  I've heard the Burson and the Concerto side-by-side, so I have my own opinions. 

post #77 of 7519

I heard the GCHA, and based on that I would easily say the Concerto is worth the additional 170, but of course that is just my opinion.  I have never heard the Burson.

post #78 of 7519

Touche on Moon-Audio price.  But comparing one reseller's liquidation price to another's full retail isn't fair.  In other news the O2 is a bit pricey compared to the O2 sold in 04 

post #79 of 7519

That's cool. I see this will take some rigorous re-evaluation for the Concerto I'm going to enjoy every minute of it 

post #80 of 7519

To correct myself, the Burson includes shipping.

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Originally Posted by Ypoknons View Post

Moon Audio has $500 GCHA's. I can get the Burson $600-650 from a local dealer. But I have no interest in arguing, I won't deny the Concerto is a great, and plus I shouldn't be arguing against my #1 choice anyways  I've heard the Burson and the Concerto side-by-side, so I have my own opinions. 



The Burson does O.K., and is a competitive alternative for entry level in driving the LCD-2. Not the last word in dynamics or frequency extension but reasonably adequate. I like it with the Sennheiser 600 and has "Home Theater" duty with the same.

 

It will not be an over-achiever in concert with the LCD-2 however!!


Edited by achristilaw - 6/28/10 at 5:54pm
post #82 of 7519

 How about the RPx33 or the RP-8 from Rudistor?

post #83 of 7519

I really liked my Rudistor, but it would be an anti LCD-2 amp being tubey in the smooth, weighty, bloom style.  Good for a leanish can like the Beyer 880 I had at the time but just too far off neutral to line up with the LCD-2.  And expensive.  Good room heaters though 

post #84 of 7519

Oh, please, please, please, come up with something that I can spend a LOT of money on, because it can't be any good unless it costs a lot of dinero!, and especially a lot more than my neighbor's head amp system!  

post #85 of 7519

all i can think of something expensive being around or greater than 2K is rudistor rpx-300 then=> gs-x/BUDA+DPS, 

post #86 of 7519

been listening for a while on LCD-2 with Lehmann audio black cube linear usb and its better than with tube amps that i have used.The Lehmann keeps the control on 20db output and the performance seems to have the right distance.The overall performance is natural and smooth,its unbelievable natural.Hope you all get the LCD soon


Edited by thinker - 6/29/10 at 3:53am
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I heard the GCHA, and based on that I would easily say the Concerto is worth the additional 170, but of course that is just my opinion.  I have never heard the Burson.


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Originally Posted by achristilaw View Post
The Burson does O.K., and is a competitive alternative for entry level in driving the LCD-2. Not the last word in dynamics or frequency extension but reasonably adequate. I like it with the Sennheiser 600 and has "Home Theater" duty with the same.

 

It will not be an over-achiever in concert with the LCD-2 however!!

 

I totally agree. From what I've read, the LCD-2s need the best. They do not deserve poor compromises 'down-stream'.

 

Audio engineers and HiFi'ers have a wonderful saying: S**T IN, S**T OUT. In other words, why would you buy such a wonderful set of cans and hook them up to something like an iPod and a desktop amp? I know this is an exaggerated example, but you would fail to hear what the LCD-2s are capable of if you make poor choices in the audio chain. Also, the neutral and revealing nature of the headphones would make listening to music unpleasant by showing-up 'bad' compromises.

 

You would'nt buy an Aston Martin and stick a Daewoo engine in it. It doesn't have to be an ultra expensive engine, just a damn good one that suits the attributes of the car. If you can't get the associated gear to make the LCDs 'sing', then buy different a set of headphones that would compliment your equipment and source material.

 

I would love a new set of quality headphones, and the LCD-2 are looking like they are going supplant the HD800s as the preferred replacement for my HD650s. However, I believe it would be a waste of money to hook the LCD-2s up to anything less than a very good to excellent headphone amplifier. I would rather wait for an amp that would do LCD-2s justice and really enhance my enjoyment of music.

 

Which leads me to....

 

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 How about the RPx33 or the RP-8 from Rudistor?

Yes, yes! What about the Rubistors? The whole solid state range looks like an obvious choice for a neutral, high current amp for the LCD-2s. 

 

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

I really liked my Rudistor, but it would be an anti LCD-2 amp being tubey in the smooth, weighty, bloom style.  Good for a leanish can like the Beyer 880 I had at the time but just too far off neutral to line up with the LCD-2.  And expensive.  Good room heaters though 

So, the Rudistor tube amp would be unsuitable because of the 'warming' effect it has on the sound; something the neutral LCD-2 doesn't need. What of the solid state Rudistor offerings??
 


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I totally agree. From what I've read, the LCD-2s need the best. They do not deserve poor compromises 'down-stream'.

 

Audio engineers and HiFi'ers have a wonderful saying: S**T IN, S**T OUT. In other words, why would you buy such a wonderful set of cans and hook them up to something like an iPod and a desktop amp? I know this is an exaggerated

I have tested these already with many amps and yes i pod is not bad with Lcd-2 and i have already had not so good results with some amps.These headphones do perform great already with cheaper amps and expensive amps wich perform great with other phones can fail with the LCD-2.
 

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I've been listening for a while on LCD-2 with Lehmann audio black cube linear usb and its better than with tube amps that i have used

A good bit of harmony with the Black Cube, eh?

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I have tested these already with many amps and yes i pod is not bad with Lcd-2 and i have already had not so good results with some amps.These headphones do perform great already with cheaper amps and expensive amps wich perform great with other phones can fail with the LCD-2.

Good to know that you could use the iPod with the LCD-2s. However, the combo could be a tad ostentatious when used on the move about town....

 

Cheap or expensive; no matter. We are looking for quality here, not necessarily the size of the outlay. In part, could the differences between the amps be attributed to the higher current that some models provide? Perhaps the amps that fared poorly with the LCD-2s would in turn 'swing' with a high impedance design such as a Sennheiser?

 

PS I was fascinated by the image you ('thinker') use: perhaps there are others who might also be interested to know that...

 

"CINDY – 12 track vinyl LP on collectable York Records label from 1973 (FYK418).
A rare solo LP recorded by Settlers vocalist Cindy Kent. This album is also said to be one of the most obscure releases on the collectable York Records Label."

post #90 of 7519

My Rudistor was the hybrid model RP5.1 if memory serves.  The tube sound wasn't slight by any stretch.  Basically though a unique sound I also felt the value was rather poor.  Visually impressive but also not without issues, mine has a transformer hum that was audible throughout the room.  It was different than my HeadAmp Lite but not better really.  It later was replaced and crushed by the HeadAmp Reference, now called GS-X.

 

The SS options are much higher powered but the rated specs don't jive.  16v @ 32 Ohm is 500mA or 8W.  But max output is 1.5W @ 16 Ohm or 4.9V and 305mA.  And THD is given at 13V @ 32 Ohm which is 405mA or 5.25W.  Into the LCD-2 13V is 260mA and 3.4W.  Its all academic though since really we listen below 1mW on average.  Anyway, on paper it reads like every other opamp with buffer output amp available.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but stating no negative feedback on an opamp is misleading since the opamp handles feedback internally to some degree.

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