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post #7261 of 7902

Luxman 38FDII + AUDEZE LCD2 sound as great as they look.

 


Edited by mmlogic - 4/14/14 at 1:53am
post #7262 of 7902

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Originally Posted by mmlogic View Post
 

Luxman 38FDII + AUDEZE LCD2 sound as great as they look.

 

 

Few things in this world make me stare for 10 minutes straight in awe.


Edited by Adamora - 4/20/14 at 7:36am
post #7263 of 7902

I was wondering if anyone has a single DAC/AMP device that they use for the LCD-2. Was thinking of the Matrix Mini-I Pro but I heard the amp is not that good for it. I would like to ask for input, thanks!

post #7264 of 7902

burson conductor works very well with

post #7265 of 7902
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burson conductor works very well with

Thanks for the reply. I was just looking at the HA-160DS and HA-160D, is the DS rare or something? I can't seem to find it sold anywhere.

EDIT: Nm seems like the Conductor is the best choice! Thank you.


Edited by Jjacq - 4/21/14 at 7:15am
post #7266 of 7902
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burson conductor works very well with


I'm curious how the Burson compares with the Benchmark DAC1 or the Grace M902.

Objectively, it's hard to imagine any DAC or headphone amp having better measurements than the DAC1.

Yet subjectively, that doesn't mean they sound the same.

And personal preferences are important too. Not everyone wants the pure unadulterated sound of a live mic feed. Some like a touch of warmth, tubilicious midrange, or other types of euphonics.

post #7267 of 7902

i don t know the Benchmark and the grace

maybe as a standalone dac the Benchmark is better than the sabre in the conductor..

but you should think as a combo, and the conductor has a very good dac ) iprefer it over the conceroHD) and an amzing headphone (the soloist)

post #7268 of 7902

I have used the Musical Fidelity M1HPA with the LCD 2's and it sounds great. Stereophile gave it a Class A rating and it gets amazing reviews. It has a dead quiet background and is very neutral sounding through its entire bandwith. It just happens that I prefer the sound of tubes and use my Sophia Electric Baby with my HRT Music Streamer ii +.

post #7269 of 7902

I'm trying to compile a list of the most widely recommended amps for the LCD 2 within different price ranges. From what I've read, this is what I've got so far:

 

Below $2000:

 

- Burson Conductor (DAC/amp)

- Beta 22

 

Below $1000:

 

- Meier Concerto 

- Schiit Mjonir

- Audio GD NFB 28 (DAC/amp)

 

Below $200:

 

- O2

 

Any more widely recommended amps for the LCD 2? i.e. amps that have been tried by a large number of HeadFiers with the LCD 2 and frequently and repeatedly recommended on the forums for the LCD 2.


Edited by PTom - 4/21/14 at 1:23pm
post #7270 of 7902
^ Below $2000 add Decware Taboo mk II and/or mk III. Among tube users this has a small but strong following.

Below $1000 Meier Classic and I think the older Violectrics V100, V181 and V200 all fall in this range. The V200 seems to have many happy LCD2 owners. I think one of the Little Dot tube amps fits here too but I don't know the specific model. IIRC DefQon used to recommend it.
post #7271 of 7902
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^ Below $2000 add Decware Taboo mk II and/or mk III. Among tube users this has a small but strong following.

Below $1000 Meier Classic and I think the older Violectrics V100, V181 and V200 all fall in this range. The V200 seems to have many happy LCD2 owners. I think one of the Little Dot tube amps fits here too but I don't know the specific model. IIRC DefQon used to recommend it.

The only Little Dots that I think are worth considering are the MKVI+ and MKVIII.  I have been lusting over the Taboo MKIII for a while now.  It is an amazing AMP for the LCD's.  The wait time for it is about 2 months after you order it form Decware though.  

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Originally Posted by PTom View Post
 

I'm trying to compile a list of the most widely recommended amps for the LCD 2 within different price ranges. From what I've read, this is what I've got so far:

 

Below $2000:

 

- Burson Conductor (DAC/amp)

- Beta 22

 

Below $1000:

 

- Meier Concerto 

- Schiit Mjonir

- Audio GD NFB 28 (DAC/amp)

 

Below $200:

 

- O2

 

Any more widely recommended amps for the LCD 2? i.e. amps that have been tried by a large number of HeadFiers with the LCD 2 and frequently and repeatedly recommended on the forums for the LCD 2.

Under $2000 I would also add a Dynahi, if you can fine one that is.  I highly recommend the Beta, that is what I am using.  Also the LD amps mentioned above.

 

Under $1000 I would honestly not consider anything other than the Mjolnir.  I just blows the other amps out of the water at that price.  I used to not be a fan but I got a chance to really sit down with it and it blew me away. 

 

Below $200  I think the Magni sounds better than the O2.  Also I would consider the Vali.  

post #7272 of 7902

In the below $1000 range I would add any Headroom "max" amp (or "maxed out Home", which has the same excellent internals as the Max without the fancy box). They're not made anymore but they occasionally show up on eBay. In their day they cost 1-3 kilobucks but they sell in the $500 to $1k range used on eBay - if you can find one; they last forever and most of the owners don't want to part with them. FWIW, in its day, the Headroom Max was on the Stereophile class A list.

 

The maxed out home or MOH is what I use for my LCD-2s and since I got the LCD-2s recently I find myself staying up way past my bedtime every night rediscovering recordings I've already heard many times over the years. As for character, the MOH doesn't have much of its own and to my ears that's a good thing. It's a simple design built with top quality internals and has a neutral sound - you hear whatever is in the recording, for better or for worse, all the way down to subtle details like musicians breathing, the piano bench creaking as the player moves slightly, or HVAC turning on or off outside the studio. Stuff that most amps and headphones just don't resolve.

 

Prior to the MOH I had the regular Headroom "home". It was a great amp with wonderfully neutral voicing but I couldn't recommend it for serious audiophiles because it lacked that last milliscrump of detail in the mids and treble, which I find to be a common though subtle shortcoming of solid state amps. I tried a Wheatfield HA-2 (SET OTL by Pete Millet), and it had the wonderful mids and treble I sought but it didn't have the deep bass grip and absolute dead silent S/N of the Home. That's what led me to the MOH to find the best of both worlds. The MOH midrange doesn't have that tubalicious sound of the HA-2 but it does have all the detail and clarity of the tubes without a hint of grain or brightness.

 

The MOH is not super powerful but it does have enough power to drive the LCD-2 (and the HE-500 which is significantly less efficient than the LCD-2) to levels beyond what my ears can take before it shows any sign of distortion. I listen to acoustic music around 70-80 dB SPL and my ears start distorting around 100 so super high power levels are academic to me. I like to listen to acoustic music at about the same level one hears it live, because that's the only way it sounds realistic, because FR of human hearing changes with volume level. Incidentally, that's why level matching is so important when comparing audio equipment, but that's a whole differen subject.


Edited by MRC001 - 4/21/14 at 4:51pm
post #7273 of 7902
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Originally Posted by PTom View Post
 

I'm trying to compile a list of the most widely recommended amps for the LCD 2 within different price ranges. From what I've read, this is what I've got so far:

 

Below $2000:

 

- Burson Conductor (DAC/amp)

- Beta 22

 

Below $1000:

 

- Meier Concerto 

- Schiit Mjonir

- Audio GD NFB 28 (DAC/amp)

 

Below $200:

 

- O2

 

Any more widely recommended amps for the LCD 2? i.e. amps that have been tried by a large number of HeadFiers with the LCD 2 and frequently and repeatedly recommended on the forums for the LCD 2.

Mixing amps with dac/amps complicates things, I think

I would put:

 Burson Soloist (instead of Conductor)

Audio gd SA-31SE or NFB-6 or Master 9 (instead of NFB-28)

I would also add Lake People G-109 to the list

post #7274 of 7902

+1 to Audio-GD SA31SE.   And also the Schiit Lyr.    

 

I've tried the Bakoon separately, and while it wasnt a direct A/B test, I didnt hear enough of a difference between that the the SA31SE to make me want to upgrade.    The SA31SE is a damn good amp, period.

post #7275 of 7902

So the updated list of the most widely recommended amps for the LCD 2 within different price ranges is:

 

Below $2000:

 

- Auralic Taurus

- Beta 22

- Burson Soloist

- Burson Conductor (DAC/amp)

- Bryston BHA-1

- Decware Taboo MK II/MK III
- M2tech Marley

 

Below $1000:

 

- Audio GD SA31SE/MFB 6/Master 9

- Audio GD NFB 28 (DAC/amp)

- Centrance DACmini (DAC/Amp)

- Lake People G109

- Little Dot  MKVI+/MKVIII

- Meier Concerto/Classic

- Nuforce Icon DAC (DAC/amp)

- Schiit Mjonir/Lyr

- Violectric V200 

- Yulong A18

 

Below $200:

 

- O2

- Schiit Magni/Vali

 

As mentioned before, I'm looking for the most widely recommended amps for the LCD 2. Any more suggestions? Are there any in the above list that should be removed since they are not universally praised with the LCD 2 or are uncommon?

 

Update

 

Added: 

 

- Bryston BH1
- Auralic Taurus
- M2tech Marley

- Yulong A18

- Decware Taboo MK II/MK III

- Nuforce Icon DAC 

- Centrance DACmini (DAC/Amp)


Edited by PTom - 4/24/14 at 12:22am
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