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post #4786 of 7690
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Originally Posted by jc9394 View Post

 

I much prefer the beta22 with LCD-2 over WA22.

That's interesting jc9394,

 

I have a B22 and I was interested in getting a WA22 because of the LCDx.  What "CANS" do you prefer with the WA22?

post #4787 of 7690
HD800 and JH13 on WA22.
post #4788 of 7690

Guys,

 

 

I have narrowed my audeze LCD-2 setup to either the Burson 160-DS or Schitt Bifrost + Lyr combo. May i know which setup gives the best synergy with the LCD-2?

post #4789 of 7690
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Originally Posted by underhysteria View Post

Guys,

 

 

I have narrowed my audeze LCD-2 setup to either the Burson 160-DS or Schitt Bifrost + Lyr combo. May i know which setup gives the best synergy with the LCD-2?

I've not tried the Burson, but the Bifrost/Lyr combo has amazing synergy with the LCD-2s and is about $100 cheaper with the USB upgrade to the Bifrost.  You'll want to get better tubes with the Lyr, as the stock tubes are a little thin and grainy.

post #4790 of 7690
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Originally Posted by underhysteria View Post

Guys,

 

 

I have narrowed my audeze LCD-2 setup to either the Burson 160-DS or Schitt Bifrost + Lyr combo. May i know which setup gives the best synergy with the LCD-2?

Burson is a seriously overrated amp IMO.

post #4791 of 7690
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Originally Posted by Sweden View Post

Burson is a seriously overrated amp IMO.

Overrated compared to what?  I'm just asking.

post #4792 of 7690
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Originally Posted by Sweden View Post

Burson is a seriously overrated amp IMO.

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Overrated compared to what?  I'm just asking.

 

I don't think it is over rated but certainly there are better options out there. 

post #4793 of 7690
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Originally Posted by jc9394 View Post

 

 

I don't think it is over rated but certainly there are better options out there. 

Yes there are, I agree.  However, lets keep it in a "same price range compressions though"  Remember the 160D is a three in one combo so features does make a difference in some cases.

post #4794 of 7690
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Yes there are, I agree.  However, lets keep it in a "same price range compressions though"  Remember the 160D is a three in one combo so features does make a difference in some cases.

 

For $1300 on amp and dac combo, which one you think it is better except the AudioGD.

post #4795 of 7690
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For $1300 on amp and dac combo, which one you think it is better except the AudioGD.

Amp, DAC, and Pre Amp combo.  Three in one.  Does Audio-gd even offer something like that?  Also this kit from Burson can be had for $1000, that's what I got mine for.

post #4796 of 7690
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

Amp, DAC, and Pre Amp combo.  Three in one.  Does Audio-gd even offer something like that?  Also this kit from Burson can be had for $1000, that's what I got mine for.

The NFB-10SE, NFB-20 and Reference 10 all offer those capabilities at $500, $1400 and $1800, respectively.

post #4797 of 7690
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Originally Posted by dagothur View Post

The NFB-10SE, NFB-20 and Reference 10 all offer those capabilities at $500, $1400 and $1800, respectively.

OK, cool - good to know.  Now how does these (exclude the $1800 one) compare to the Burson 160D?

post #4798 of 7690

Used to own the HA-160D, sold it when my NFB-10SE came in. I prefer the more of a ruler flat sound on Audio GD equipment vs the Burson's warmth. Plus the Burson doesn't quite drive the HE-6 to it's full potential (outputs about 1 watt into 50 ohms vs 6 watts on the NFB-10). However, the Burson can be used as a standalone amp while the NFB-10SE cannot.

 

The NFB-20 ($1480) and Reference 10 ($1850) can both be used as standalone amps and have a lot more power circuitry (3 r-core transformers vs 1) and better cases (weighs approximately 3x as much as the NFB-10SE). I think, but am not sure that they're also pure class A amps instead of A/B and can output 7 watts into 50 ohms. 

 

The NFB-10SE is about $650 with the remote, TE8022 upgrade, and shipping to US. Still a great deal at this price.

post #4799 of 7690
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Originally Posted by steve2151 View Post

Used to own the HA-160D, sold it when my NFB-10SE came in. I prefer the more of a ruler flat sound on Audio GD equipment vs the Burson's warmth. Plus the Burson doesn't quite drive the HE-6 to it's full potential (outputs about 1 watt into 50 ohms vs 6 watts on the NFB-10). However, the Burson can be used as a standalone amp while the NFB-10SE cannot.

 

The NFB-20 ($1480) and Reference 10 ($1850) can both be used as standalone amps and have a lot more power circuitry (3 r-core transformers vs 1) and better cases (weighs approximately 3x as much as the NFB-10SE). I think, but am not sure that they're also pure class A amps instead of A/B and can output 7 watts into 50 ohms. 

 

The NFB-10SE is about $650 with the remote, TE8022 upgrade, and shipping to US. Still a great deal at this price.

One thing for sure - that NFB-10SE is one ugly kit.  On the real side.  I have not heard any of the Audio-gd stuff.  As you have heard both, so I guess you should know best.  I just want to make one point.  Driving the HE-6 is not the be all end all. These day it seems like if the amp can't drive the HE-6 then it must not be good.  I'm not saying you siad that Steve.  I'm just saying.  Not being able to drive the HE-6 seems to come up more than not. 

 

I have a B22 and I know it can drive the HE-6 - but who cares...But the Burson drives every other headphone pretty good.

post #4800 of 7690
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

One thing for sure - that NFB-10SE is one ugly kit.  On the real side.  I have not heard any of the Audio-gd stuff.  As you have heard both, so I guess you should know best.  I just want to make one point.  Driving the HE-6 is not the be all end all. These day it seems like if the amp can't drive the HE-6 then it must not be good.  I'm not saying you siad that Steve.  I'm just saying.  Not being able to drive the HE-6 seems to come up more than not. 

 

I have a B22 and I know it can drive the HE-6 - but who cares...But the Burson drives every other headphone pretty good.

 

More power does not mean it is better.  When my beta22 is build I asked the builder for a 2x gain instead of 8 that can drive the HE-6.  It drive every other headphones that I have perfectly fine and I'm not interest in getting HE-6 anytime soon.


Edited by jc9394 - 6/14/12 at 5:20pm
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