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The Fun works surprisingly well and is suprisingly listenable with the LCD-2s.  My impression of it is probably related to it having the same "house sound" as my main rig (which clearly has a much bigger soundstage than the Fun).


Interesting. I'm tempted to sell off my HA-160 and my AD2000 and put that $1000 towards an LCD-2 to run from the FUN. Thoughts anyone?

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I'll take your AD2000s, but I'd suggest saving for an NFB-10 to go with the LCD-2s as a replacement for those two and sell your HD-650s as well. You wont be needing them anyway. biggrin.gif

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I'll take your AD2000s, but I'd suggest saving for an NFB-10 to go with the LCD-2s as a replacement for those two and sell your HD-650s as well. You wont be needing them anyway. biggrin.gif


An NFB10 would be very nice, and the combo sounds like it would be great, but I want to keep the total cost of my setup at under $1500 (saving for a holiday), hence why I was interested in the FUN + LCD-2 combo. I feel kind of like I'm wasting $500 in my setup atm with the Burson. It's just not $500 worth of improvement over the FUN alone with the AD2000. I was also already planning to sell the HD650, just haven't gotten around to it yet. I really do love the AD2000s, I just wish it had a little more bass quantity. Other than that, they are stunning. If I do end up deciding to get rid of the AD2000s any time soon I shall let you know tongue.gif

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Maybe go for the Schiit Lyr and a GrubDAC? 

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The LCD-2 sounds great with the Lyr. I just listened to the combo yesterday at the Norcal Headfi meetup, as I'm sure did K3cT.
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Would you say it adds a little more energy and brightness to the LCD-2's sound or is a more warmer sounding combination? The LCD-2 through the Leben was a bit too dark for me.

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The Lyr had plenty of energy, both musically and literally, but I wouldn't call it overly bright or warm. It was fairly neutral to my ears.
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Just FYI, the Leben is a tube amp anyways.


Yeah, I know.. But from the other ones I mentioned (and others I didn't) can you "recommend" any who in your opinion would be a good match with the W4S?



I'm already out on a limb recommending the W4S actually, as I've never personally listened to it. I just think that if I were looking into DACs in that class that is one I would consider based upon comparisons I have read. FWIW, you may want a tube output stage on your DAC going into an SS amp, or vice-versa to give you the best of both worlds. Sorry I can't be more helpful here, as I have found my bliss with the LCD-2 of a balanced tube amp. If I were looking for a combo SS setup I would probably check into the Meier and Violectric lines myself.

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Speaking of tube amps and the LCD-2, I have been spending quite a bit of time with the Trafomatic Head One driving the LCD-2, and feel this is a really excellent and synergistic pairing.
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I'm hoping to see more impressions on the Lyr soon. I really have my heart set on a WA6SE, but unless I luck out and get a used one at a good price (someone sell me theirs already!) I'm not sure if I can justify over a grand for my first amp. If I can't I'll most likely be going with the Lyr!
 

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The Lyr had plenty of energy, both musically and literally, but I wouldn't call it overly bright or warm. It was fairly neutral to my ears.
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Wow, great thread.  I am very interested in purchasing a pair of theLCD-2.  I am rather short on desk space (especially since I already have a pair of Soliloquy monitors sitting there), so was considering a Peachtree Audio Nova or iNova or iDecco.  Has anyone listened to the LCD-2 with any of these integrated/DAC/head-amps?  I would certainly appreciate any comments on how the sound of any of the Peachtree Audio units compared to any of the other preferred amps for the LCD-2. 

 

I like the idea of the iNova or iDecco since it has a good quality DAC, a preamp, headphone amp and amp in one unit.  I read a review of the Nova that seemed to think its DAC was first class, but did not mention much about the quality of its headphone amp section, and certainly did not mention it being used with the LCD-2.  So any comments/experience would be appreciated!!

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Wow, great thread.  I am very interested in purchasing a pair of theLCD-2.  I am rather short on desk space (especially since I already have a pair of Soliloquy monitors sitting there), so was considering a Peachtree Audio Nova or iNova or iDecco.  Has anyone listened to the LCD-2 with any of these integrated/DAC/head-amps?  I would certainly appreciate any comments on how the sound of any of the Peachtree Audio units compared to any of the other preferred amps for the LCD-2. 

 

I like the idea of the iNova or iDecco since it has a good quality DAC, a preamp, headphone amp and amp in one unit.  I read a review of the Nova that seemed to think its DAC was first class, but did not mention much about the quality of its headphone amp section, and certainly did not mention it being used with the LCD-2.  So any comments/experience would be appreciated!!

Yes, I've spent some time listening to the iDecco and MusicBox.  Both amps sounded ok as LCD-2 amps, but just OK.  The DAC in the iDecco sounded better to my ears than the one in the MusicBox.  In spite of how good they are value wise, I personally wanted more than what they delivered to the LCD-2s.  The iDecco might be OK if used as a DAC feeding a more capable headamp.
 

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Originally Posted by seldenr View Post

Wow, great thread.  I am very interested in purchasing a pair of theLCD-2.  I am rather short on desk space (especially since I already have a pair of Soliloquy monitors sitting there), so was considering a Peachtree Audio Nova or iNova or iDecco.  Has anyone listened to the LCD-2 with any of these integrated/DAC/head-amps?  I would certainly appreciate any comments on how the sound of any of the Peachtree Audio units compared to any of the other preferred amps for the LCD-2. 

 

I like the idea of the iNova or iDecco since it has a good quality DAC, a preamp, headphone amp and amp in one unit.  I read a review of the Nova that seemed to think its DAC was first class, but did not mention much about the quality of its headphone amp section, and certainly did not mention it being used with the LCD-2.  So any comments/experience would be appreciated!!

 

You may want to consider the Burson HA-160D. I own the stand-alone amp (and audio buffer) and it is very competent when used with the LCD-2s. If you are in the area I would be more than happy to let you audition it.

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I want to second the suggestion of the Burson over the Peachtree gear. Checkout the 6 Moons reviews on the LCD-2 & Burson.
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Just read through all 107 pages of this thread.

 

Just wanted to bring up the topic of impedance matching between your source and amp.  I suspect there will be a lot of less experienced people reading this thread, and I've already seen instances where the same amp receives different reviews from different people (Schitt Asgard, I'm looking at you).  There could be several explanations, but its important to understand impedance matching as a foundation.

 

I am going to use a post from another forum that I found helpful on this topic, from user Nuuk on Audiocircle:


"The main job that a hi-fi buffer does is 'sorting out' impedance mis-matches. Various parts of the hi-fi system have input and output impedances. Impedance is a bit like resistance but for AC signals (instead of DC). As a rule of thumb, the output impedance of a circuit should be about ten times lower than the input impedance of the circuit that comes after it. Something as simple as a pot has an input and output impedance but they are usually the same. So if we take the Sensation amplifier for example, if its input impedance is 100K (I don't know what it actually is) then the ideal impedance of the pot would be 10K. And if a DAC comes immediately before the pot, then the output impedance should be no higher than 1K (in theory). If the impedance matching is not optimal, the ability of the whole system to transfer power efficiently from the source to the speakers, will be compromised, and the sound quality will suffer.

Improving impedance matching using a buffer will produce large benefits, and in my experience the improvements always outweigh any loss of transparency caused by adding extra circuitry to the system. The improvements that you will hear are down to the buffer improving the impedance matching more than the added circuit having any other effect on the sound. However, the components used in the buffer may also change the sound of the whole system. Valves, transistors, Jfets, and opamps can all be used for buffering, and which will sound best, will depend on personal tastes, and the rest of the equipment in the hi-fi system."

 

Now, my question would be whether it is common practice for manufacturers to include a buffer on headphone amps before the gain section.  Is it always done, or is it sometimes done and sometimes not?  Could this be why some amps receive wildly different reviews, or is "synergy" and "taste" still the most likely culprit?

 

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