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Originally Posted by brasewel View Post

Well I just bought the concerto/stagedac combo. regular_smile%20.gif cant wait to listen through them


I have had them both for a little over a week, now, and I love them with the LCD-2s.  Lots of power, lots of features, great sound.  The amp is a tiny bit on the bright side of neutral to my ears, which is perfect for the LCD-2s.  

 

Mine took exactly 3 weeks to arrive here in Northern Michigan; customs opened the boxes, but repacked everything carefully.  Also included with mine were 2 6 foot 14 gauge AC cords, a nice quality 6 foot toslink cable, and a USB A/B cable.  Well written instruction manuals, too.

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Not heard their gear but the Burson is all discrete.  They don't do themselves any favours referring to their discrete amp module as an opamp.  Lots of people use opamp and ic interchangably which is where the confusion comes in.  Burson makes discrete amps that they use in their gear and sell in socketable versions to other manufacturers.  Confusing PR but at the end of the day... all discrete, no ic design.

 

And while discrete doesn't equal great sounding, I've never come across an ic based design that could compete with great sounding discrete designs.  I liked the Concerto with all the cans I tried it with but the B22 clearly has better control down low.  Back when it was the Gilmore vs Meta42/PPA, same result.  Great discrete designs just sound more effortless and have better overall control in my experience.

 

That said anyone gotten a chance to hear the Burson 160D or another planar friendly DAC/Amp that can compete with my current separates?  Would love to free up some desk space :p

 

I was under the impression that the Burson amplifier (HA160) is not a true discrete design like the Beta22 or Dynalo or CKKIII. It still sounds pretty darned good to my ears though. 

 

I've heard the HA160D. The amplifier section is great but the DAC section is very meh, a fact which is also confirmed by several people in a local meet. You might as well wait for the Gilmore X2 as I've yet to hear a HeadAmp product that sounds bad. 
 

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I've been fairly impressed with this nonsense... 16461bd0_DSC_0136.JPG

Also the attenuator costs more than everything else combined :( but it was what I had readily available.  Gonna move it elsewhere when I turn this into a pre-amp...  Not quite as good as the b22... but I think it cost <300 minus the attenuator.  Also was impressed with the EHHA when I had it running but I have been a lazy bum and it is out of commission at the moment.  Got a bunch of telefunken 6gm8s sitting in a drawer but oh well :(

 

I'm not sure how much power it can put out at the moment but I think a single ended version can put out 3w into 33ohm or so.  Gain is set to 2 but my source has relatively high output voltage.  I've got the quiescent current set at ~50ma or so.

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Originally Posted by K3cT View Post

I've heard the HA160D. The amplifier section is great but the DAC section is very meh, a fact which is also confirmed by several people in a local meet.

 



Confirmed again today that on Win7 it doesn't see more than 16/48 so its a no go for me :(

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I've been fairly impressed with this nonsense... 16461bd0_DSC_0136.JPG

Also the attenuator costs more than everything else combined :( but it was what I had readily available.  Gonna move it elsewhere when I turn this into a pre-amp...  Not quite as good as the b22... but I think it cost <300 minus the attenuator.  Also was impressed with the EHHA when I had it running but I have been a lazy bum and it is out of commission at the moment.  Got a bunch of telefunken 6gm8s sitting in a drawer but oh well :(

 

I'm not sure how much power it can put out at the moment but I think a single ended version can put out 3w into 33ohm or so.  Gain is set to 2 but my source has relatively high output voltage.  I've got the quiescent current set at ~50ma or so.


Holy crap... how many steps does that offer you and what did it run you?

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I've been fairly impressed with this nonsense... 

 Also was impressed with the EHHA when I had it running but I have been a lazy bum and it is out of commission at the moment.  Got a bunch of telefunken 6gm8s sitting in a drawer but oh well :(

 


aww..that's weak sauce buddy...haul ass and get that EHHA going again. Its about as good as it gets in the DIY world for me for the LCD-2s. ANd with the teles they should totally rock. THrow in BJT outputs on it..just saying :)

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I've been fairly impressed with this nonsense... 

 Also was impressed with the EHHA when I had it running but I have been a lazy bum and it is out of commission at the moment.  Got a bunch of telefunken 6gm8s sitting in a drawer but oh well :(

 


aww..that's weak sauce buddy...haul ass and get that EHHA going again. Its about as good as it gets in the DIY world for me for the LCD-2s. ANd with the teles they should totally rock. THrow in BJT outputs on it..just saying :)

Working on it :( I ordered the parts to make a few heater supplies this week so shouldn't be much longer now...
 

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Holy crap... how many steps does that offer you and what did it run you?



http://www.khozmo.com/products_dale_ladder.html it's 48 steps was just trying one out.  It's actually supposed to go in that EHHA I mentioned but since I don't have the heater supplies ready and what I intend to use for this later is not yet available, I just used it here for the time being.

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Originally Posted by brasewel View Post

Well I just bought the concerto/stagedac combo. regular_smile%20.gif cant wait to listen through them


I have had them both for a little over a week, now, and I love them with the LCD-2s.  Lots of power, lots of features, great sound.  The amp is a tiny bit on the bright side of neutral to my ears, which is perfect for the LCD-2s.  

 

Mine took exactly 3 weeks to arrive here in Northern Michigan; customs opened the boxes, but repacked everything carefully.  Also included with mine were 2 6 foot 14 gauge AC cords, a nice quality 6 foot toslink cable, and a USB A/B cable.  Well written instruction manuals, too.


I got mine used for a fellow head-fier. I will just be receiving the amp and dac without any of the additional accessories. Would have liked to get the toslink cable, oh well I got the combo for a good deal.

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Originally Posted by sokolov91 View Post

Holy crap... how many steps does that offer you and what did it run you?



http://www.khozmo.com/products_dale_ladder.html it's 48 steps was just trying one out.  It's actually supposed to go in that EHHA I mentioned but since I don't have the heater supplies ready and what I intend to use for this later is not yet available, I just used it here for the time being.



Ty for the link.

 

Not as many steps as I thought though ahaha. Oh well looks like a great stepped attenuator.

post #1571 of 7263

Reminds me that I need to re-construct Agent Orange, which is in pieces on my desk at the moment.

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Reminds me that I need to re-construct Agent Orange, which is in pieces on my desk at the moment.



sadness..let me know if you want to let it go..that is my dream office rig amp.

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Will do, but I have Stacker II parts from dbel84 here, so it shall live again, but constructed in a better manner, at least once I find a good box for it.

post #1574 of 7263
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I've been fairly impressed with this nonsense... 16461bd0_DSC_0136.JPG

Also the attenuator costs more than everything else combined :( but it was what I had readily available.  Gonna move it elsewhere when I turn this into a pre-amp...  Not quite as good as the b22... but I think it cost <300 minus the attenuator.  Also was impressed with the EHHA when I had it running but I have been a lazy bum and it is out of commission at the moment.  Got a bunch of telefunken 6gm8s sitting in a drawer but oh well :(

 

I'm not sure how much power it can put out at the moment but I think a single ended version can put out 3w into 33ohm or so.  Gain is set to 2 but my source has relatively high output voltage.  I've got the quiescent current set at ~50ma or so.


 

Can you tell me more how it sounds like? I initially wanted to build a compact amplifier using those in the same chassis as γ2 but the σ22 is really huge compared to the rest of the components... 

 

 

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I've heard the HA160D. The amplifier section is great but the DAC section is very meh, a fact which is also confirmed by several people in a local meet.

 



Confirmed again today that on Win7 it doesn't see more than 16/48 so its a no go for me :(


 

Are you sure? I can set the bit-rate to 24/96 no problem in my Foobar W7 but I didn't test it with 24-bit tracks admittedly. 

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There are two different USB thingamajiggies (receiver chips/modules?) for the 160D, Burson is replacing the ones that don't handle the higher bitrates properly. More at LeePerry's 160D thread.

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