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post #136 of 7560

I have an Auraliti digital music player here for evaluation.  I'm looking forward to listening to it with the LCD-2s.

http://www.auraliti.com/

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HHHmm. Sounds like a classic example of garbage in, garbage out. Poor source material in, poor sound quality out. The better the DAC, the better the LCD-2s sound, right? Yes So, have you fed the amp/headphones any high-res digital material and then tried listening to MP3 versions of the same tracks? 

this probably sounds weird but i believe firstly my ears secondly my brain and thoughts.320 files against wav or flac, i dont get a difference with LCD-2 headphones when driven with good a DAC , both files sound heavenly


Edited by thinker - 7/1/10 at 6:27am
post #138 of 7560
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this probably sounds weird but i believe firstly my ears secondly my brain and thoughts.320 files against wav or flac, i dont get a difference with LCD-2 headphones when driven with good a DAC , both files sound heavenly

We're back to the weakest link in the chain sort of thing.  With the right DAC and amp, I can believe what you're saying.  You may find a more resolving amp that would let you hear the difference, then again, maybe your DAC is doing such a good job or your source material is not that revealing, ...  You see what I mean, there are many variables.
 

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Originally Posted by thinker View Post
this probably sounds weird but i believe firstly my ears secondly my brain and thoughts.320 files against wav or flac, i dont get a difference with LCD-2 headphones when driven with good a DAC , both files sound heavenly

Always trust 'dem ears.  I like the "heavenly" part of your post. These phones are ticking the boxes.

You might find what Kwkarth discovers regarding the Auraliti digital music player of interest. Not having an in-built track selector/ interface may let it down (if I have read the manufacture's website correctly, you need an iPod or a PC/MAC)

PS No turntable? Tisk, tisk!

post #140 of 7560
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Originally Posted by thinker View Post

had the chance to try out with different dacs and amps the LCD-2 and found that the dac is more important than the amp,this is why it sounds good with i pod.Tried also from Lehmann BCL usb  line pre output to tubeamps and the differences between amps became quite marginal.Even via Moth the sound was clean and clear.Using the Audio-gd dac 19 dsp resulted in that veiled dark sound.


Reading your impressions I think you should try a Keces 131 mk 2. I love my DAC19 and your impressions seem to indicate the LCD-2 would synergize better with it then the Ipod (since I find the ipod lacking sub bass big time with most if not all headphones I own.)

 

Keces 131 mk 2 is all but dark and veiled quite the opposite. It has the dynamics I need anyway too. It´s not as soft or analogue and real sounding as the DAC19 can be but if you are after maximum PRaT or such for rock they do deliver. And no treble roll off from what I can tell either.

 

I really like this combo because they are so different yet both very rewarding to listen to.

post #141 of 7560

I think Thinker was trying to say that the LCD-2 is a reference can in that it sounds like the source connected to it.  If the source is dark and veiled, the LCD-2 will be as well.  If the source is clean and clear, the LCD-2 is too.  If the source is warm...  If the source is lean...  Also says the LCD-2 tends to sound more like the source than the amp... within reason.

 

I think the reason there are splits on how the Meier Concerto sounds is the same thing.  I'll know for sure soon enough, but get the feeling its also neutral and just passes along what its being fed which is why some think its a little lean while others say its dynamic.

post #142 of 7560

I don't want to stray this really interesting and informative thread off course, but...

I had a listen to some Weiss equipment this week. Possibly the best sound I've heard from digital. More info - WEISS.


Edited by gogogasgas - 7/1/10 at 3:32pm
post #143 of 7560
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I think Thinker was trying to say that the LCD-2 is a reference can in that it sounds like the source connected to it.  If the source is dark and veiled, the LCD-2 will be as well.  If the source is clean and clear, the LCD-2 is too.  If the source is warm...  If the source is lean...  Also says the LCD-2 tends to sound more like the source than the amp... within reason.

 

I think the reason there are splits on how the Meier Concerto sounds is the same thing.  I'll know for sure soon enough, but get the feeling its also neutral and just passes along what its being fed which is why some think its a little lean while others say its dynamic.


The LCD-2 ... has assumed control (of the signal chain) (to the tune of 2112).

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The LCD-2 ... has assumed control (of the signal chain) (to the tune of 2112).


is that geddy's tune?

post #145 of 7560

Just got a new toy in that should play nice with the LCD-2's I should be getting very soon. http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/500176/violectric-v200

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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

I think Thinker was trying to say that the LCD-2 is a reference can in that it sounds like the source connected to it.  If the source is dark and veiled, the LCD-2 will be as well.  If the source is clean and clear, the LCD-2 is too.  If the source is warm...  If the source is lean...  Also says the LCD-2 tends to sound more like the source than the amp... within reason.

 

 


The LCD-2 appers to be warm when you hear it at the first time then later you realize that its very source related, the LCD-2 dont like that some flavor is added it reproduces the music how it is in real life and the music in real life is colorful .

If you buy a good or expensive DAC wich is on the warm side it probably dont match with LCD.I like to recommend a safe combo for LCD-2, wich is very musical clean,clear and  has the right tonal balance and gives enough control to LCD-2.

This combo offers all the 3D images wich is one of LCD-2 strenghts.This combo does not prefer a certain type of music ,from Jazz to Classic all sounds great.This combo does not take much space from your table its quite compact.

I use Mac pro laptop> belkin USB cable>Lehman BCL  USB> LCD-2.The possibility to go wrong with those super expensive sources is high with LCD.Its also important to notice ,that the stock Apple USB cable doesnt suit with this combo and i found that the Belkin USB cable suits best ,the timing is spot on .I will put down probably later this day a paper where Lehmann audio explaines how computer based data should operated optimally.

.....and please get the LCD-2 first and then buy the amp and source otherwise the second hand market will be filled up.


Edited by thinker - 7/2/10 at 6:02am
post #147 of 7560

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Originally Posted by santacore View Post

Just got a new toy in that should play nice with the LCD-2's I should be getting very soon.

It would be great to read your report on the Violectric! Not only how it sounds with the LCD-2s, but also the HD800s.

 

Another review on the Violetric - HERE.

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is that geddy's tune?


End of side one I believe

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Originally Posted by monotune View Post

Jumping in this thread. I thought this was a good place because I own the Edition 8, LCD-2 & HD800's. I diid spend some time with the T1 as well. In complete agreement. HD800's really light in the bass dept. no matter the amp. The T1 was better but still the LCD-2 just murder's those two. I have been using the iDecco at home and ALO RX & SR-71A on the road. My favorite in the ALO RX & iMod with the LCD-2 is killing me. Everyday it is better. Burn in time  has been a lot but it was great out of the box. It just gets sweeter everyday. I have heard from quite a few people that the Cavali Liquid Fire is the thing to get when it comes out. I think that will be my first nice home unit.

Just out of curiosity--you said that the LCD2 slaughters the HD800 and T1, but you didn't say anything about the ED8?

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Just out of curiosity--you said that the LCD2 slaughters the HD800 and T1, but you didn't say anything about the ED8?


The ED8 isn't even in the same league.  Not worthy to be compared.  ED8 is a fun can, but not a serious one IMHO.

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