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post #31 of 38
Originally Posted by necropimp View Post

someone needs to figure out time travel so we can go back to get the master tapes while they are still new to make the digital transfers


while he's at it, it'd be nice to not allow Otis Redding to get on that damn plane

post #32 of 38
As a rule of thumb, I generally try to avoid Remasters if original is present. I have heard a lot of remasters and only few have been better than original. More often than not, they are just originals with volume turned up, heavy dynamic compression added and sometimes some V-type equalizer added. And frankly this is terrible.

Then there are some like Metallica - Master Of Puppets DDC Gold remaster which is simply audiophile quality. Original is quite bad quality and suffers from some CD baby-diseases, but remaster is great. Probaply because it really is remaster from the mix and not just hampered up original master.
post #33 of 38
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Originally Posted by MaZa View Post

As a rule of thumb, I generally try to avoid Remasters if original is present. I have heard a lot of remasters and only few have been better than original. More often than not, they are just originals with volume turned up, heavy dynamic compression added and sometimes some V-type equalizer added. And frankly this is terrible.



Then there are some like Metallica - Master Of Puppets DDC Gold remaster which is simply audiophile quality. Original is quite bad quality and suffers from some CD baby-diseases, but remaster is great. Probaply because it really is remaster from the mix and not just hampered up original master.




Ooooh, thanks for this insight. I'll seek out Master of Puppets...that's my fav Metallica album. I'm sad how so many metal albums are such sh*t recordings!
post #34 of 38

I agree that 98% of all remasters are worse than the originals.  However, some remasters are clearly head and shoulders above the originals.  Take, for example, so my favorite recordings:

 

Led Zep's Mothership is an awesome remaster--so much better than the box sets they put out in the 90s

 

I love the Warner remasters of many Dire Straits albums.  I think they are phenomenal remasters.

 

Pink Floyd is an even push.  The remasters took out a lot of master tape hiss and improved the linearity, but at the expense of a little dryness and bright highs.  They damped some of the reverb and feedback from Gilmour's guitar at the expense of a more clear Roger Waters vocal.  It's pick your poison, so to speak.
 

But, other remasters are garbage.  The Who remasters are terrible.  

 

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Originally Posted by TheWuss View Post

 

  However, I simply wasn’t prepared to favor the 80’s master over the 2004 remaster. 

 

 


Edited by hodgjy - 6/7/10 at 7:43pm
post #35 of 38

Otis Redding's "Sittin' On The Dock Of The Bay" is one song that I love to demo as one of my remasters. A lot of music out there has so much hi-fi potential when done remotely right. I don't know why companies find it so hard to do a proper release in modern times with such great technology out there. It's frustrating.

post #36 of 38

I am reminded of the phrase "A well edited tree is a telephone pole." 

 

That's most of what's going on here, IMO. Overzealous techs trying to take out every hiss, pop, singer's breath, background noise, etc until the music sounds sterile and dry. Then they crank up the volume and pass it through the filters to make it "fuller" (louder, plus kicking up the volume of anything that was background before so people think they are getting something different, and don't forget a little bass bump for good measure).

 

Mind you it's not always the tech's fault. Some know better, but are forced to do this because it's what the guys upstairs want.

post #37 of 38
The best balance is often the original LP. I've found that just about all music sounds best in the format of its original release.
post #38 of 38

I'll agree with that.  I think the digitization of music has done a disservice in general to tonal integrity.  I love my cds, but I need good cans and a tube amp to take out the digital shrills.
 

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The best balance is often the original LP. I've found that just about all music sounds best in the format of its original release.
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