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post #241 of 341
Originally Posted by JulioCat2 View Post

To me and my system, after several days of testing, the best player is MPC with Reclock and MadFlac


Yes, agreed! if it supported gapless that's what I'd be using...this is the tightest sound you can get on a PC, period.

post #242 of 341
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Originally Posted by JulioCat2 View Post

To me and my system, after several days of testing, the best player is MPC with Reclock and MadFlac, i try Foobar, Ulilith, KMPlayer, StealthPlayer, XXHighEnd all of them claim to be BitPerfect all of them sound different all of them pass the HDCD flag intact (i don't know if this is a good bitperfect test) so for the moment MPC is my favorite sounding player.


Link? and is there any special configurations I have to make sure are right to make sure i get the best quality?

post #243 of 341
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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

Link? and is there any special configurations I have to make sure are right to make sure i get the best quality?


Just download Media Player Classic, madFlac, and the latest reclock.

post #244 of 341

whats the HC version here? Is this the same thing? http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/

 

I just downloaded the 64 bit version. I hope it works with reclock


Edited by donunus - 6/1/10 at 7:12pm
post #245 of 341

You know, it took me a SECOND of reading.  MPC is a discontinued project.  MPC-HC continues the development of MPC under a different project manager.

post #246 of 341

yah I know they are the same thing but sometimes specific versions sound better

post #247 of 341

MPC can be found here(you don't need the "HC" version): http://www.xvidvideo.ru/media-player-classic/

 

You can't use the x64 version because Reclock is 32bit only, and there's also a XP compatibility mode in Reclock if you wanna try KS instead of WASAPI Exclusive

post #248 of 341

Leeperry, Thanks. You see people complain that you are not helping the community and with smart alecs like hybrys no one complains. Go figure. Instead of posting a useful answer when someone asks a question you are being told that He read it in a second and that they are the same.

post #249 of 341
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Originally Posted by donunus View Post

Leeperry, Thanks. You see people complain that you are not helping the community and with smart alecs like hybrys no one complains. Go figure. Instead of posting a useful answer when someone asks a question you are being told that He read it in a second and that they are the same.


Wow. Just wow.

 

The reason why Hybrys said what he did was because you asked a redundant question. The page you linked explains exactly what the HC suffix meant:

 

"This project is based on the original "Media Player Classic" and was created after Gabest, the original author, stopped working on it. Many new player features have been integrated in this player, such as..."

 

post #250 of 341

Well yah, my question was about how to set it right to make sure I am listening to how its supposed to sound best and was making sure that the version I linked would work like the mpc version they were talking about. leeperry answered it by saying that I should not use reclock with the 64 bit version which is all I needed to hear.

 

EDIT: Sorry if I didn't get my question across very clear. English is not my first language


Edited by donunus - 6/1/10 at 8:30pm
post #251 of 341


Ok good post,  but you are batting 1 for 2,  which Operating System are you using ?
 

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Originally Posted by JulioCat2 View Post

To me and my system, after several days of testing, the best player is MPC with Reclock and MadFlac, i try Foobar, Ulilith, KMPlayer, StealthPlayer, XXHighEnd all of them claim to be BitPerfect all of them sound different all of them pass the HDCD flag intact (i don't know if this is a good bitperfect test) so for the moment MPC is my favorite sounding player.

post #252 of 341

mpc is nice at first listen. The first thing I noticed is that is is less fatiguing than foobar because its as if there is less edginess to its sound. similar to what i remember using kmplayer and my impressions on them before

post #253 of 341

could the differences just be due to the mp3 decoding codecs used for each player? Now after some more listening Ive pinpointed that Foobar is a little edgier because I notice it is more dynamic. The mpc actually is close in tonality to foobar but less dynamic. This actually explains why I think that ulilith sounds a little more analog than foobar. 

 

Leeperry you should try foobar one more time with the latest version and see if you can agree with my findings. But then again were not using the same computer and OS. Still worth a shot though

post #254 of 341

uLilith does 64bit float MP3 decoding using the LAME libraries, MPC uses libmad(if you use ffdshow you can select other decoders like libavcodec)....libmad has a few bugs w/ VBR but I like how it sounds...and you can set libmad to output 32float very easily in MPC(it's better to let Reclock take care of the final float>integer conversion).

 

I already gave my impressions on all those players, I tried foobar 1.01 IIRC.


Edited by leeperry - 6/1/10 at 11:05pm
post #255 of 341

@donunus

1. its not mpc's thing, its reclock's. MPC itself sounds worse then f2k.

2. when new "bit perfect" driver for Essence ST' has been released i've immediately tried it with f2k 1.02. I was hoping it finally got close to ReClock. But no luck - it still far from it. I mean i would love to use f2k (and i was using it for ages in past), but now i can't while PP doesn't pay any attention to the best existing audio rendering technologies.


Edited by shimm - 6/1/10 at 11:18pm
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