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Burning in for the worst?

post #1 of 42
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The term "Burn In" is believed by some and considered placebo to others but this post is geared toward those who believe in burn in. For any component...Speakers, Amps, DAC's, Cables, etc...has burning them in resulted in them actually sounding...worst?

post #2 of 42

If burn-in really did make equipment degrade, it would cause great concern in its reliability.

post #3 of 42

Burning in that K701 for the gazillionish hour bight break that driver, but its still not at its best =D. Give it another 5 million hours.

post #4 of 42
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Originally Posted by Sonic 748i View Post

The term "Burn In" is believed by some and considered placebo to others but this post is geared toward those who believe in burn in. For any component...Speakers, Amps, DAC's, Cables, etc...has burning them in resulted in them actually sounding...worst?

 

I have always been a believer, but it changes from believing in 1000 hours burn in rituals to 50 hours max  with most headphones.  I don't really believe in very long periods of burn in anymore.  but I do beleive that there are ecceptions...like K701,  i tend to believe people and companies that sware that the K701 needs a lot of time to get it's shape,but i would like to hear it for myself in order to really hear it.

I,with all of my headphones couldn't detect any difference beyond 30 hours...the most.

 

The RS1 havne't change at all from the first hour

 

I found initial burn in to only improve the sound by tightning the bass and in some cases soften the highs.    In D5000 the sharp highs stayed the same and only the bass relaxed in the first 10-20 hours.

 

in fact,initial burn in is totally real and not  a belief because the changes are not so subtle.

long period burn in is another story.  I am not saying that it doesn't exist,it just doesn't exist for me.

post #5 of 42

When I first got my W1000X I loved the bass presentation and then after burn in the bass presentation was more in line with my other headphones. I preferred how they were pre-burn in as it provided a nice contrast with my other headphones as with the W1000X I could feel the bass granted it did intrude onto the mids at times but it added to the fun factor which after burn in was lost.  

post #6 of 42

Whether it exists or not, any differences are so small the inherent sound sig is not changed. This is why the overwhelming reports of burn in are positive. If there were any significant change, you'd get more unhappy people. 

 

People get to like phones after 'burn in' because they've become accustomed to them. You filter out the stuff that you may not initially have liked, or that was prominent. As with the above poster re bass, I found my RS2's highs were less noticeable after a while. But I don't ascribe that to burn in. Other listeners of my phones still find the the highs are very forward.

post #7 of 42

from my experience,the bass usually gets tightend.  for bass shy headphones it could be a bad thing,like tisbOb experienced. 

post #8 of 42

I don't know about burn-in through amps/DACs, but through devices with moving parts or parts that force movement, I've been a supporter through. I found the HE-5s (regular) started off pretty alright sounding, then while burning them in and listening to them, it was more of a downer sound than before. They were really fun to start with, then moved to a more of a sloppy/slow sound and then moved up to a more energetic sound again and have remained that way while I've had them. None of my other headphones had reacted like this and it was quite a dramatic change! I believe I listed some notes on this before in the HE-5 thread and I was quite disappointed, but it really made a night and day difference like I hadn't heard with my other headphones.

 

The closest thing I had to burn-in sound was my DT770s. They changed a bit, but not something that was night and day-- My K601s had nothing noticeable and neither my SRH840s, but for whatever reason, I heard a huge fluctuation through my HE-5s.

post #9 of 42

A Greek philosopher once said you should know what is possible, and what is not possible to change. If something burns in detrimentally, it is not something we can prevent. But we can stop burning it in, and only let it play while we are listening. As we've yet to ascertain some sort of ideal burn-in, which would probably be different for all audio equipment, we can only speculate what may be best for our equipment. Some people (very rare though :p) actually leave their headphones and speakers playing 24/7.

 

What I do is just leave my equipment on 24/7 (but with power conditioner on to protect it), except for headphones, speakers, cd players, and mp3 players which have moving parts or very limited lifespan. I will likely just leave things on 10 hours a day in the future, and never subject headphones/speakers to prolonged pink noise/burn in tracks, and if I ever get the urge to, only at low-mid volume.

post #10 of 42

Can't say I really believe in burn in. There are several factors that can change how we hear things throughout a normal day.

post #11 of 42

I always let my headphone burn in while listening...if they are new,I somtimes let them keep playing in moderate volume when i am leaving the house for a few hours (while a listening session),but i have never turned on my system especially for burn in purposes.


Edited by plonter - 5/24/10 at 3:28pm
post #12 of 42

I do believe in burn in..in some ways, for ex on headphones. After the first 100 hours i can hear a better sound signature and the bass is more relaxed...its like it unleash the real power. 

post #13 of 42

Sometimes it works, sometimes less and sometimes you are not sure... What else can be written about it?

post #14 of 42
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Originally Posted by plonter View Post

from my experience,the bass usually gets tightend.  for bass shy headphones it could be a bad thing,like tisbOb experienced. 


Placebo effect, imo. It's like people who have subs in their car, you get immune to it after a while.

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Originally Posted by TMM View Post

Placebo effect, imo. It's like people who have subs in their car, you get immune to it after a while.

I do not agree, the bass on the CAL! was almost intolerable for me after I noticed the 'fuzzy' bass definition and it had at least eighty hours of regular use. I could not play all my music anymore due to that 'fuzzy' bass. I detested that headphone almost to the point of just throwing it away, thankfully I got it for cheap. Immunity, I would not say that too soon.
 

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