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post #1 of 56
Thread Starter 

I do like some jazz, but I've tried to get into parts and just can't do it.

 

The only two albums I can say I like as a whole are:

 

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue

Tsuyoshi Yamamoto Trio - Misty

 

I've heard there is a Japanese edition of Kind of Blue that's a must own. Essentially what I'm asking is, are there any better reproductions on vinyl, SACD, CD, or DVD-A worth investing in over the $10 typical CD you find in stores?

 

As for the Misty album, is there anywhere I can get it anymore? I've found prices around $80, not willing to pay that much for an album I'm not 100% on yet.

 

Anyhoo, I've tried some other jazz like Davis' "Relaxin" as well as Blue Train, Soultrane and Dakar by John Coltrane. I'm not huge on any of these really, they're just sort of background music and don't invoke the same response. I also love the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack, though I don't own it. If that gives any insight into the sound I like, then go for it!

 

I grabbed Norah Jones' "Come Away With Me" on SACD the other day and I like it, but not as much as the two up top.

 

Basically, help me get into jazz with some essentials as well as some personal recommendations. Thanks a bunch!

post #2 of 56
There's a lot more to jazz than just free jazz, bop and fusion. Although the tv series sucked, the companion CDs to Ken Burns' Jazz were great. It doesn't work to listen to jazz the way you listen to rock. It's a different animal. If it sounds like background music, you probably just don't understand it yet.

Unless it's smooth jazz and then it actually is background music...
post #3 of 56
Thread Starter 

Well that's what I'm sort of getting at. I dig the bebop sound and really get into it, whereas some, but not all, of the softer jazz just sort of bores me. I'm hoping we can take my tastes, integrate elements of the other subgenres, and overall get some damned good albums.

 

Oddly enough, I'm watching the Ken Burns series right now haha!

post #4 of 56
I like red hot jazz myself, especially Harlem and early swing. Nothing soft about that. Trad jazz kicks ass too.
post #5 of 56
Thread Starter 

Any album recommendations?

post #6 of 56

If you're into the bebop and hard bop sound, definitely check out any of the earlier material by Thelonious Monk or John Coltrane. I can't think of specific recommendations off the top of my head, but I will say to start with the earlier material of those guys - especially in Coltrane's case; his later material got pretty crazy.

post #7 of 56

 

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Originally Posted by ngower View Post

Basically, help me get into jazz with some essentials as well as some personal recommendations. Thanks a bunch!


 

Here are some essential albums and some of my personal favorites. I've only selected albums that I think are at least reasonably accessible on the essential albums list. Personal favorites list may contain some albums that are not as easily accessible, but are very rewarding if you are able to like them. I've left out all the albums you mentioned you had already heard. If there are many albums from the same artis in the list, I've arranged them in chronological order starting with the earlies recording (note: albums have been arranged according to their recording dates, not their release dates).

 

Albums I'd call essential (or almost essential) AND reasonably accessible:

 

Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers: Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers (nowadays known as Moanin')

Bill Evans Trio: Waltz for Debby

Charles Mingus: Blues & Roots, Mingus Ah Um

The Dave Brubeck Quartet: Time Out

Hank Mobley: Soul Station

Herbie Hancock: Maiden Voyage

John Coltrane: Giant Steps, My Favorite Things, Crescent

Keith Jarrett: The Köln Concert

Miles Davis: 'Round About Midnight

Oliver Nelson: The Blues and the Abstract Truth

Stan Getz & João Gilberto: Getz/Gilberto

 

Some of my personal favorites (some of these could also be called essential):

 

Alice Coltrane: Ptah, the El Daoud

Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers: Free for All

Charles Mingus: Tijuana Moods

Eric Dolphy: Out to Lunch!

Herbie Hancock: Takin' Off

Joe Henderson: Page One

John Coltrane: Coltrane live at Birdland, A Love Supreme, Interstellar Space

McCoy Tyner: Sahara

Miles Davis: Workin' with The Miles Davis Quintet, Milestones, Miles Smiles, A Tribute to Jack Johnson

Ornette Coleman: The Shape of Jazz to Come, Free Jazz

Patricia Barber: Modern Cool

Pekka Kuusisto & Iiro Rantala: Subterráneo

Thelonious Monk: Monk's Music

Trio Töykeät: Kudos, Wake

Wayne Shorter: JuJu

 

In case that feels like a lot, I'll name five albums that are in my opinion most essential on the list and five albums that I recommend based on my personal preference (from the personal favorites list).

5 most essential albums from my list: The Blues and the Abstract Truth, Crescent, The Köln Concert, Mingus Ah Um, Time Out

5 personal recommendations: Coltrane live at Birdland, Monk's Music, Ptah, the El Daoud, Subterráneo, Wake

 

If one could only hear 3 of the albums I've listed they should be: The Blues and the Abstract Truth, The Köln Concert, Time Out

post #8 of 56

Anything by the greats is gonna be a safe choice. Jazz is so diverse that you have to find your niche or you can take it all in. I'll just list off some of my favorites:

 

John Coltrane

Charlie Parker (his recordings are so old sometimes it is incredibly hard to enjoy)

Michael Brecker

Dave Brubeck

J.J. Johnson

Miles Davis

Kenny Garrett

Charles Mingus

Oscar Peterson

Pat Metheny

Sonny Rollins

Ahmad Jamal

Stanley Clarke

Chet Baker

 

And anyone who's played with them.

post #9 of 56

Mingus.

 

Black Saint & The Sinner Lady

Mingus Ah Um

Changes Two

 

Also try 60's Herbie Hancock.

 

TJ's list is an excellent primer. Try and sample things on YouTube/Last.fm/whatever and get an idea of who you like.


Edited by phanboy_iv - 5/23/10 at 6:38pm
post #10 of 56

Don't forget all the GREAT JAZZ GUITAR ARTIST......I cut/pasted this top 100 list....MY FAVORITES IN RED......My Father(Henry "Hank" Fecteau) was a killer guitar player..

1. Wes Montgomery
  2. Django Reinhardt

  3. Pat Metheny
  
4. Joe Pass
  5. Charlie Christian
  6. John McLaughlin
  7. Allan Holdsworth
  8. Grant Green
  9. John Scofield
10. Jim Hall
11. Larry Coryell

12. Kenny Burrell
13. Bill Frisell
14. Larry Carlton
15. Pat Martino
16. Mike Stern
17. Al Di Meola
18. Lenny Breau

19. Herb Ellis
20. John Abercrombie
21. George Benson(His Early STUFF)
22. Lee Ritenour
23. Tal Farlow
24. Lonnie Johnson
25. Eddie Lang
26. Robert Conti
27. Johnny Smith
28. Bill Connors
29. George Van Eps
30. Jimmy Bruno
31. Jimmy Raney
32. Hank Garland
33. Joe Diorio

34. Barney Kessel
35. Sonny Sharrock
36. Oscar Moore

37. Les Paul
38. Jeff Golub
39. Ralph Towner
40. Russ Freeman
41. Derek Bailey
42. Ted Greene
43. Martin Taylor

44. Howard Roberts
45. Charley Byrd
46. Ed Bickert
47. Chet Atkins
48. Scott Henderson
49. George Barnes
50. Gabor Szabo

 
51. Robben Ford
52. Charlie Hunter
53. John Pizzarelli
54. Kurt Rosenwinkel
55. Thom Rotella
56. Billy Bauer
57. Henry Johnson
58. Billy Bean
59. Sonny Greenwich
60. Dean Parks
61. Steve Khan
62. Frank Gambale
63. Mark Stefani

64. Stanley Jordan
65. Ronny Jordan
66. Bireli Lagrene

67. Earl Klugh
68. Grant Geissman
69. Ken Navarro
70. Harry Volpe
71. Paul Bollenback
72. Lorne Lofsky
73. Nguyen Le
74. Russell Malone
75. Daryl Stuermer
76. Phil Upchurch
77. Ulf Wakenius
78. Hiram Bullock
79. Andy Summers
80. Nick Webb

81. Tony Mottola
82. Bucky Pizzarelli
83. Norman Brown
84. Tiny Grimes
85. Tommy Tedesco
86. Mark Whitfield
87. Julio Fernandez
88. Marc Ribot
89. Greg Carmichael
90. John Pisano
91. Emily Remler
92. Brian Hughes
93. Fitzroy Coleman
94. Mick Goodrick

95. Kevin Eubanks
96. Carl Kress
97. Wolfgang Muthspiel
98. Tuck Andress
99. Robert Normann
post #11 of 56

My suggestion:  Go to Amazon.  Go to Music.  Type in blue note jazz.  Listen away.

post #12 of 56

John Coltrane

-Crescent (Absolutely stunning)

-A Love Supreme

 

Dave Brubeck

-Time Out

-Live at Carnegie Hall

 

Miles Davis

If you want to get into fusion

-A Tribute to Jack Johnson

-In A Silent Way

-Bithces Brew

 

for new stuff check out "The Bad Plus". Really weird/interesting. They like to do covers of popular songs. They do a mean Tom Sawyer cover. i hjave...

-These Are the Vistas

-Prog

 

Hebrie Hancock

-Head Hunters (can't go wrong with this. really funky)

 

Weather Report. Really funky as well

-Heavy Weather

-Black Market

 

enjoy

post #13 of 56

I agree with most of the suggestions above.  Since not many jazz singers were mentioned, here's a little starter list:

 

Kurt Elling - Nightmoves, The Messenger, Dedicated to You

Patricia Barber - Modern Cool, A Fortnight in France, Nightclub

Tierny Sutton - On the Other Side

Karin Allyson - Remember John Coltrane, In Blue

Sophie Milman - Take Love Easy

Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown

Dianne Reeves - The Calling, Goodnight and Goodluck

Madeleine Peyroux - Careless Love

 

That's all that's coming to me right now.  I tried to make a list of good sounding albums, and outside of the Sarah Vaughan disc most of them are fairly recent.  Of course you can't go too wrong with many of the classic singers too.

post #14 of 56

You forgot the two best jazz singers, Ella Fitzgerald and Dinah Washington.

post #15 of 56

Jazz and I have a love hate relationship. Most of the time I like laid back melodic jazz, soundtracks tend to be great for this stuff, and funnily enough, one of my favorite jazz artists is Roswell Rudd, a trombonist known for his avant garde snappy jazz-- But if you find some recording of his newer quartet (The Roswell Rudd Quartet) there's some great music in there with a lovely crew he put together and a talented vocalist.

 

Yoko Kanno composed a lot of good bebop and jazz for the Cowboy Bebop soundtrack-- one hell of a talented lady!

 

Other than those particular artists, I have a large jazz collection for parties with only a few slower tracks that I listen to on my own. One of my favorites being John Coltrane's "Say it (Over and over again)" and Sinatra is always great for some big band jazz.

 

But hey, while we're at the recommendation point, I wouldn't object if someone noted some good bands / musicians for some slower melodic jazz (vocal or no). ;)

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