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Yeah, but shipping to customers like me wavey.gif could ease your mind.

 

 

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+1  Me to :biggrin:

Oh, you guys want an early x-mas present eh? Send me a PM and I'll ring up the elves. Potterma should be receiving his unassembled F5 kit from me today, so x-mas came super early for him lol :D

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Finally some info that many of you have been waiting for. Initial impressions of the DIY First Watt F5 + HE-6. Enjoy!

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How much does the HE-6 improve with burn-in?

 

To be honest I haven't listened to my new HE-6 for more than 10 hours, and I wonder if there will be significant improvement in sound after long hours of listening. If so, approximately how many hours?

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thinking of trying a speaker amp for the HE-6, any endgame solutions?

 

cause seems like the GSX Mk2 is good but it feels like the HE-6 could still use a little more power. right now i'm in love with the way the HE-6 presents bass, i like it even more than the T1, its the first headphone i can say that about. its a similar decay to it, but even tighter and stronger, very tight and focused bass that has a visceral feel to it, most speaker like bass presentation ive heard. basically take the T1's bass signature, add more tightness, punch, and impact, and thats the HE-6 bass. 


Edited by Dubstep Girl - 10/29/13 at 1:37am
post #9875 of 19444
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

How much does the HE-6 improve with burn-in?

 

To be honest I haven't listened to my new HE-6 for more than 10 hours, and I wonder if there will be significant improvement in sound after long hours of listening. If so, approximately how many hours?

 

'The HeadRoom' feels the cans are a bit bright out of the box and recommend 300-500 hours...

 

 http://www.headphone.com/headphones/hifiman-he-6.php

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I agree burn in made a difference , but small mistake I think most people make with these headphones is the DAC must be right as well. I have several amps that drive the headphones well . But only 2 DACS complete the sound I want. As this is just my opinion . The dacs I like are the M7 and the Pwd MK2 . They both give the headphones a more Lucius sound. Other DACS seem to cold . I think the same is true of the HD800 . Most people just look for amps but do not consider dacs as well. I did not read this although we all have read plenty. It's just after playing for a while and listening it is the conclusion I cam to... Hope this helps people here.

Al D
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Yup, source will matter.

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Thanks but it seems we all focus on the amp, trying to achieve perfection just there.

Thanks for agreeing.

Al D
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I wrote it that way 'cause some will use analog sources not digital for their HE-6. Pigtailed to an amp with a TT or R2R on the front-end. Like I will, eventually... :D

post #9880 of 19444
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Do you get yours Hardwired or you use the stack connectors?

 

Just stock connectors.

 

Bit fiddly to get on properly but once done had no issues.

post #9881 of 19444
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

thinking of trying a speaker amp for the HE-6, any endgame solutions?

 

cause seems like the GSX Mk2 is good but it feels like the HE-6 could still use a little more power. right now i'm in love with the way the HE-6 presents bass, i like it even more than the T1, its the first headphone i can say that about. its a similar decay to it, but even tighter and stronger, very tight and focused bass that has a visceral feel to it, most speaker like bass presentation ive heard. basically take the T1's bass signature, add more tightness, punch, and impact, and thats the HE-6 bass. 

Yeah,  You will soon find out just how much this headphone can scale.  It keeps asking for more.  I felt the same way with the GS-X pairing, the sound was good, but the HE-6 wanted more.  

 

From the GS-X mk2 I don't recommend going "down" to amps like the Emotiva mini X or smaller type amps like that.  Go for the gusto :biggrin:

 

You could camp out on the "Gon" looking for Pass amps, Threshold amps or what ever you see that's a good deal.  There's a lot on there.  Or you can recruit Brunk :biggrin:  to build you an amp.  It sounds like he did a fine job with his F5 clone.

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I can easily vouch for my 70W Pathos Classic One MKIII amp as a splendid amp for driving the HE-6. The Gold Aero 7308 tubes, which are rebranded Amperex 7308 tubes, improve upon the stock tubes with a fuller-bodied sound. Of course, I'd like to believe that this isn't the end-game for HE-6, when there are better amps out there that can take the supposedly ceiling-less HE-6 to higher leagues.

That being said, could anyone share their experience with burn-in of HE-6?
Edited by songmic - 10/29/13 at 6:37am
post #9883 of 19444
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

How much does the HE-6 improve with burn-in?

 

To be honest I haven't listened to my new HE-6 for more than 10 hours, and I wonder if there will be significant improvement in sound after long hours of listening. If so, approximately how many hours?

Yes, there will be an improvement for sure. I don't know the whole process a new HE-6 experiences during burn-in, but my guess is that the gold foil becomes more flexible over time.

 

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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

thinking of trying a speaker amp for the HE-6, any endgame solutions?

 

cause seems like the GSX Mk2 is good but it feels like the HE-6 could still use a little more power. right now i'm in love with the way the HE-6 presents bass, i like it even more than the T1, its the first headphone i can say that about. its a similar decay to it, but even tighter and stronger, very tight and focused bass that has a visceral feel to it, most speaker like bass presentation ive heard. basically take the T1's bass signature, add more tightness, punch, and impact, and thats the HE-6 bass. 

I seriously can't imagine anything performing a notch above First Watt amps without taking out a mortgage lol, so that would be the endgame amp IMO. I totally agree with you about the T1 HE-6 comparisons. Like you, I have been a big advocate for the T1 for a long time, until I took a second chance on the HE-6. The HE-6 is definitely not for the faint of heart is you want the best out of it lol.

 

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

 

'The HeadRoom' feels the cans are a bit bright out of the box and recommend 300-500 hours...

 

 http://www.headphone.com/headphones/hifiman-he-6.php

I think that sounds about right.

 

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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I agree burn in made a difference , but small mistake I think most people make with these headphones is the DAC must be right as well. I have several amps that drive the headphones well . But only 2 DACS complete the sound I want. As this is just my opinion . The dacs I like are the M7 and the Pwd MK2 . They both give the headphones a more Lucius sound. Other DACS seem to cold . I think the same is true of the HD800 . Most people just look for amps but do not consider dacs as well. I did not read this although we all have read plenty. It's just after playing for a while and listening it is the conclusion I cam to... Hope this helps people here.

Al D

I agree, the HE-6 and HD-800 are lenses of what you have upstream. The only thing i sort of dislike about the HD-800 is that it does have some ringing i dont like. I need to try the new mod coming out from a site that shall not be named (had an admin edit a post of FR/CSD measurements i linked to).

 

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

I wrote it that way 'cause some will use analog sources not digital for their HE-6. Pigtailed to an amp with a TT or R2R on the front-end. Like I will, eventually... :D

 

Ooh, spill the beans SO, what R2R will you be using! :popcorn:

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Yeah,  You will soon find out just how much this headphone can scale.  It keeps asking for more.  I felt the same way with the GS-X pairing, the sound was good, but the HE-6 wanted more.  

 

From the GS-X mk2 I don't recommend going "down" to amps like the Emotiva mini X or smaller type amps like that.  Go for the gusto :biggrin:

 

You could camp out on the "Gon" looking for Pass amps, Threshold amps or what ever you see that's a good deal.  There's a lot on there.  Or you can recruit Brunk :biggrin:  to build you an amp.  It sounds like he did a fine job with his F5 clone.

 

Thanks Darryl! I most certainly can build one for you Dubstep Girl. I'll give it a pink faceplate too :tongue:

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Originally Posted by songmic View Post

I can easily vouch for my 70W Pathos Classic One MKIII amp as a splendid amp for driving the HE-6. The Gold Aero 7308 tubes, which are rebranded Amperex 7308 tubes, improve upon the stock tubes with a fuller-bodied sound. Of course, I'd like to believe that this isn't the end-game for HE-6, when there are better amps out there that can take the supposedly ceiling-less HE-6 to higher leagues.

That being said, could anyone share their experience with burn-in of HE-6?

Yes, there definitely appears to be no end in sight, HE-6 is a true powerhouse. See my above replies in regards to burn-in.

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I've used the HE-6 for less than a week, and I'm already in mad love with it. I own other flagship headphones, such as LCD-3, TH900, HD800, and SR-009, but the HE-6 is the one headphone I honestly cannot find any fault with. While others excel in certain areas, each of them has its own weaknesses. For example,

 

1. The LCD-3 delivers rich mids and the best bass I've heard in any headphone, but is inherently dark-sounding and has a somewhat narrow soundstage.

2. The TH900 is overall the best closed-back headphone I've heard, but its mids are relatively recessed and doesn't have the wide, airy soundstage of open-back headphones.

3. The HD800 has pinpoint accuracy in imaging and throws a massive soundstage, but it is a bit too bright and sibilant at times.

4. The SR-009 is very transparent and crystal-clear, but sounds bright, unnatural and fatiguing over long hours of listening.

 

The HE-6, on the other hand, is a flawless headphone in comparison. While it may not boast one particular area in which it stands out above the rest, it does everything so well overall that I cannot complain about its sound. I would put it a tad brighter than neutral, but not to the point of being unnaturally bright like HD800 or SR-009. It is also the least fatiguing, most genre-friendly, and the ultimately most enjoyable to listen to for extended hours regardless of which music I listen to. If I had to criticize, it would be that only a few people would be able to fully appreciate what the HE-6 can do, because it's going to sound mediocre unless it's driven by a high-quality headphone amp with plenty of power, or better yet, a decent speaker amp.

 

Although some folks seem to dislike the HE-6's design, I for one think it looks pretty bad-ass. Other minor complaints I have with the HE-6 that are not related to sound is its screw-in connectors, and that it's not as comfortable as the likes of TH900 and HD800, being a planar magnetic headphone and all.

 

My opinions may change over time, but right now I prefer the HE-6 to SR-009, which is saying a lot. Perhaps if I pair the SR-009 with a better electrostatic amp I'll be able to hear its full potential, but the HE-6 driven by Pathos Classic One MKIII is pure win.


Edited by songmic - 10/29/13 at 8:11am
post #9885 of 19444
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

I've used the HE-6 for less than a week, and I'm already in mad love with it. I own other flagship headphones, such as LCD-3, TH900, HD800, and SR-009, but the HE-6 is the one headphone I honestly cannot find any fault with. While others excel in certain areas, each of them has its own weaknesses. For example,

 

1. The LCD-3 delivers rich mids and the best bass I've heard in any headphone, but is inherently dark-sounding and has a somewhat narrow soundstage.

2. The TH900 is overall the best closed-back headphone I've heard, but its mids are relatively recessed and doesn't have the wide, airy soundstage of open-back headphones.

3. The HD800 has pinpoint accuracy in imaging and throws a massive soundstage, but it is a bit too bright and sibilant at times.

4. The SR-009 is very transparent and crystal-clear, but sounds bright, unnatural and fatiguing over long hours of listening.

 

The HE-6, on the other hand, is a flawless headphone in comparison. While it may not boast one particular area in which it stands out above the rest, it does everything so well overall that I cannot complain about its sound. I would put it a tad brighter than neutral, but not to the point of being unnaturally bright like HD800 or SR-009. It is also the least fatiguing, most genre-friendly, and the ultimately most enjoyable to listen to for extended hours regardless of which music I listen to. If I had to criticize, it would be that only a few people would be able to fully appreciate what the HE-6 can do, because it's going to sound mediocre unless it's driven by a high-quality headphone amp with plenty of power, or better yet, a decent speaker amp.

 

Although some folks seem to dislike the HE-6's design, I for one think it looks pretty bad-ass. Other minor complaints I have with the HE-6 that are not related to sound is its screw-in connectors, and that it's not as comfortable as the likes of TH900 and HD800, being a planar magnetic headphone and all.

 

My opinions may change over time, but right now I prefer the HE-6 to SR-009, which is saying a lot. Perhaps if I pair the SR-009 with a better electrostatic amp I'll be able to hear its full potential, but the HE-6 driven by Pathos Classic One MKIII is pure win.

That's big praise for the HE-6. While i haven't had first-hand experience to compare all of them at once, I'm not surprised with your findings as I have come to a very similar conclusion myself. That is why I fell in love with the T1 for so long, until I gave the HE-6 a second chance as I knew I never gave it the attention to detail it deserved. I too find it to be the least fatiguing amongst the flagships i have owned and it sounds great with all genres. I used to keep all my cans since they each offered something unique and sort of as a badge of pride lol. But now I am just really picky, if I'm not extremely pleased with one, or it gets little head time I don't keep it around anymore. The HE-6 is here to stay that's for sure, even over the HD-800 if it came down to just one headphone.

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