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post #9691 of 19433
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Originally Posted by goldenSHK View Post
 

I'm tempted to give it a shot. So right now, it's the TBI Millenia or this. I'd really like to try both before I buy, but that might not be doable unless I go to a head fi meet. 

Trust me, the way I am OCD about this stuff, I have a feeling even after I get something endgame-ish (LCD3/X/HE6 + amp), I'd still be around head fi looking at Stax and other higher end stuff that I'd be drooling over. It's a sickness, the gear obsession. I'm crossing my fingers that after this, I'll be content for awhile at least which I'm confident I can be.  


It's rumoured that an HE-6 successor might be released next year. :tongue_smile:

 

I can definitely say the HE-6 with a quality amp is close to the SR-009 in performance.

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Please remember that driving the HE-6 is not only about power and/or Ampere even though the HE-6 has a very low sensitivity. To fully enjoy what a remarkable sound it can produce, you need highly transparent and resolving amps, DACs and low jitter sources.
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It's rumoured that an HE-6 successor might be released next year. :tongue_smile:

 

I can definitely say the HE-6 with a quality amp is close to the SR-009 in performance.

How much better can the HE6 successor be honestly if the HE6 is already close to the SR009? The only other place to go is down unless it goes UP, ABOVE the SR009 in performance :eek: 

 

LarsHP, would you say that the Ray Samuels Intruder meets the criteria of "transparent and resolving?" 


Edited by goldenSHK - 10/18/13 at 1:47am
post #9694 of 19433
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Xenophone, would you say that the HE6 and the HE500 have noticeable different soundstage and imaging? If you had to guess which can you were listening to with your eyes closed and you only had to go by the soundstage and imaging qualities, would you be able to distinguish the two? I am going to probably end up with either the HE6 or HE500 and the main reason I want the HE6 is because I don't want that nagging feeling of not having the flagship/next up the line when you have the "second best." Call me a fanatic, but that's why I haven't pulled the trigger yet. 

Yes they are different and -though I can only speak for classical as that's the main genre I listen to- I could quite quickly tell the difference.  But you won't hear me say that, given proper amplification, the HE-6 are better than the HE-500 under all circumstances, it's not as simple as that.  A lot depends on the type of music you listen to and on personal preferences.  I understand your feelings about wanting the best there is and in absolute, technical terms that's the HE-6.  I know the feeling.  But consider this:  I first purchased the HE-6 and by chance got the opportunity to audition the HE-500 and I feel now that for certain genres where you want a more intimate impression, they best the HE-6 and I think I'll get myself a pair.  You should try comparing both with the music you typically listen to, don't lose sight of the fact that we're talking about relatively small nuances here.  A big factor will also be the DAC/Amp pairing.  Regardless, even if you'd purchase 'only' the HE-500, don't for a moment think you've bought a dud.

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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

Yes they are different and -though I can only speak for classical as that's the main genre I listen to- I could quite quickly tell the difference.  But you won't hear me say that, given proper amplification, the HE-6 are better than the HE-500 under all circumstances, it's not as simple as that.  A lot depends on the type of music you listen to and on personal preferences.  I understand your feelings about wanting the best there is and in absolute, technical terms that's the HE-6.  I know the feeling.  But consider this:  I first purchased the HE-6 and by chance got the opportunity to audition the HE-500 and I feel now that for certain genres where you want a more intimate impression, they best the HE-6 and I think I'll get myself a pair.  You should try comparing both with the music you typically listen to, don't lose sight of the fact that we're talking about relatively small nuances here.  A big factor will also be the DAC/Amp pairing.  Regardless, even if you'd purchase 'only' the HE-500, don't for a moment think you've bought a dud.

Gotcha. Thanks. I'm quite intrigued by the Ray Samuels amp mentioned previously as that will definitely null the HE500 portability advantage if that amp/dac can truly power the HE6. In this case, wouldn't I just be able to EQ for the small nuances between the 500 and the 6 that you are mentioning? It's the speed and resolution of the driver you can't EQ for.

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goldenSHK, I haven't heard the Intruder, so I can't say. What I am getting at, is that a powerful speaker amp may drive it at extremely high volume, but if it hasn't the finesse, clarity, transparency, resolution etc. you will miss what the HE-6 is all about.
post #9697 of 19433
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Originally Posted by goldenSHK View Post
 

I'm tempted to give it a shot. So right now, it's the TBI Millenia or this. I'd really like to try both before I buy, but that might not be doable unless I go to a head fi meet. 

Trust me, the way I am OCD about this stuff, I have a feeling even after I get something endgame-ish (LCD3/X/HE6 + amp), I'd still be around head fi looking at Stax and other higher end stuff that I'd be drooling over. It's a sickness, the gear obsession. I'm crossing my fingers that after this, I'll be content for awhile at least which I'm confident I can be.  

This is all the more reason you should get the the HE-6 :evil: There seems to be no end in performance gains when using better DACs, and especially amps. I found the HE-6 worthy of a very nice McIntosh amp a couple of weeks ago, and the clarity and bass was just jaw dropping. You will enjoy your journey with the HE-6, it's definitely not a "set it and forget it" type of headphone. Some people hate that fact, but us truly dedicated folks find it a thrill ride :)

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:wink_face: Yeah, goldenSHK, think I got off the fence on my own? Ask preproman... I was pushed! :veryevil: 

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post #9700 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

:wink_face: Yeah, goldenSHK, think I got off the fence on my own? Ask preproman... I was pushed! :veryevil: 

Hehe, yes indeed. *Yoda Voice* The force is strong with that one. :tongue:

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:dt880smile:

 

For me, it was 18 months sittin' up there! When I looked up from the ground and recognized preproman and Happy Camper, I didn't even take it personal.

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So I'm pretty sure I'm going to go for the HE6 now that I've heard how insanely they scale up. I just want to hear it for myself at a meet or rent it to finalize my decision. Here's my question though, if I'm about to shill out for this can, someone mentioned an HE6 successor, should I be worried this thing will be old tech as soon as I get my hands on it? 

post #9703 of 19433
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Originally Posted by goldenSHK View Post
 

So I'm pretty sure I'm going to go for the HE6 now that I've heard how insanely they scale up. I just want to hear it for myself at a meet or rent it to finalize my decision. Here's my question though, if I'm about to shill out for this can, someone mentioned an HE6 successor, should I be worried this thing will be old tech as soon as I get my hands on it? 

Honestly, I wouldn't concern yourself with that. All electronics become "old" quickly. Plus, newer isn't necessarily better either in the world of audio. There will eventually be a successor, but price and performance is a complete question mark.

post #9704 of 19433
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Honestly, I wouldn't concern yourself with that. All electronics become "old" quickly. Plus, newer isn't necessarily better either in the world of audio. There will eventually be a successor, but price and performance is a complete question mark.

That's true, but there seems to be Stax sets at least a decade old that sound top tier. I'm hoping that the HE6 sounds so good that in 20 years even if its price drops (as old tech usually does), it will still be cans to consider tier 1. I guess I'm looking for the planar version of the HD600/650 basically where in 20 years, they are still the talk of the town. I guess you can't really predict that sort of quality though since even most other cans that sound so good are seldom talked about after the "next model/flagship" arrives. 

post #9705 of 19433
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Originally Posted by goldenSHK View Post
 

That's true, but there seems to be Stax sets at least a decade old that sound top tier. I'm hoping that the HE6 sounds so good that in 20 years even if its price drops (as old tech usually does), it will still be cans to consider tier 1. I guess I'm looking for the planar version of the HD600/650 basically where in 20 years, they are still the talk of the town. I guess you can't really predict that sort of quality though since even most other cans that sound so good are seldom talked about after the "next model/flagship" arrives. 

Haha yes very true. Hey, even if they aren't top tier 20 years from now, atleast you could rip out the solid gold drivers for a nice sum of cash :tongue:

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