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post #9646 of 19438
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

I'm headed out to lunch but when I return late this afternoon, I'll offer a brief comment on the HE-6 and D7000 heard on my Pioneer SX-D7000 iron...

:popcorn:

post #9647 of 19438
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The bass on the D7000 is a real "fun" type of bass - lots of bloom.  But it bleeds into the mids and it's not accurate .  But like again it's fun as all get out.  The D7000 is sort of a "U" shape headphone the treble and the Bass is what you hear the most.  Lost of sub bass rumble.

 

The HE-6 has that reference style type of bass.  Hits hard, very tight accurate and is in line with the rest of the FR.  No bass bloom, nor does it bleed in the mids. I love the Planar Bass and mids.  Some better than others but Hifi man seems to get it right.  

 

This is how I hear it - so it's all IMO..

I agree....well said

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Originally Posted by philo50 View Post
 

I agree....well said

+1 While I can't comment on the D7000, I can vs. the TH-900. The TH-900 has some amazing bass/sub bass with a bit of bloom, but it too is a mild U shape headphone. The TH-900 is a little thin in the midrange, and I found the treble to be a little shrill, which I hate, but the bass is glorious. The HE-6 has everything very nicely balanced and the bass on them goes the deepest I have heard without bleeding into other areas, it's also quite tight, much like the HD-800. The HE-6 is my "go to" can for pretty much everything, unless I really want to dig deep in the music, like classical for example, I will don the HD-800. I regretted selling the HE-6 before and now I own them for the second time and couldn't be happier.


Edited by brunk - 10/16/13 at 12:37pm
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Got a pic to share? Yes I do, excuse the mediocre pics, just took them with my phone. It's a BTG Sunset cable. It's 8 conductors that is 12 ft. long, that makes 96 ft. of wire! Brian has Mogami make his custom wire, so you it's quality stuff. All in all, i got it done for like $275 installed and shipped, not too bad!

 

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+1 While I can't comment on the D7000, I can vs. the TH-900. The TH-900 has some amazing bass/sub bass with a bit of bloom, but it too is a mild U shape headphone. The TH-900 is a little thin in the midrange, and I found the treble to be a little shrill, which I hate, but the bass is glorious. The HE-6 has everything very nicely balanced and the bass on them goes the deepest I have heard without bleeding into other areas, it's also quite tight, much like the HD-800. The HE-6 is my "go to" can for pretty much everything, unless I really want to dig deep in the music, like classical for example, I will don the HD-800. I regretted selling the HE-6 before and now I own them for the second time and couldn't be happier.

 

Yes, Yes, Yes exactly

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Is anyone using the Jerg Pads on their HE-6?  If so impressions please..:biggrin:

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Is anyone using the Jerg Pads on their HE-6?  If so impressions please..:biggrin:

I have some on a HE-500 that I made myself. I'm about to sell the HE-500 when I get around to finishing the extensive mods I've done to it. I'll swap them out and test them on the HE-6. 

 

In addition to my previous post about the Sunset cable, BTG claims each wire is 26AWG for a total of 23 AWG per channel (2 signal 2 ground). That's incorrect. 2x 26AWG actually equates to 20AWG per channel.

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That's all :tongue_smile: folks! RA# is pending... (not really)

 

 

Just got home, up next - dinner (and the washing that follows) and then I'll throw up a few quick pix!

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That's all :tongue_smile: folks! RA# is pending... (not really)

 

 

Just got home, up next - dinner (and the washing that follows) and then I'll throw up a few quick pix!

:popcorn:

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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

I have some on a HE-500 that I made myself. I'm about to sell the HE-500 when I get around to finishing the extensive mods I've done to it. I'll swap them out and test them on the HE-6. 

 

In addition to my previous post about the Sunset cable, BTG claims each wire is 26AWG for a total of 23 AWG per channel (2 signal 2 ground). That's incorrect. 2x 26AWG actually equates to 20AWG per channel.

oooo I have the same cable. Glad to know it's actually equivalent to 20AWG.

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LL

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HE-6/Wireworld Silver Eclipse 7 - OCC Silver-Clad Copper (4x19AWG)


Edited by Silent One - 10/16/13 at 10:33pm
post #9657 of 19438
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LL

 

 

 

I'm surprised they weren't shipped in a PVC pipe because of how stiff the cable is supposed to be.

post #9658 of 19438
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

The bass on the D7000 is a real "fun" type of bass - lots of bloom.  But it bleeds into the mids and it's not accurate .  But like again it's fun as all get out.  The D7000 is sort of a "U" shape headphone the treble and the Bass is what you hear the most.  Lost of sub bass rumble.

 

The HE-6 has that reference style type of bass.  Hits hard, very tight accurate and is in line with the rest of the FR.  No bass bloom, nor does it bleed in the mids. I love the Planar Bass and mids.  Some better than others but Hifi man seems to get it right.  

 

This is how I hear it - so it's all IMO..

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Originally Posted by philo50 View Post
 

I agree....well said

+1 While I can't comment on the D7000, I can vs. the TH-900. The TH-900 has some amazing bass/sub bass with a bit of bloom, but it too is a mild U shape headphone. The TH-900 is a little thin in the midrange, and I found the treble to be a little shrill, which I hate, but the bass is glorious. The HE-6 has everything very nicely balanced and the bass on them goes the deepest I have heard without bleeding into other areas, it's also quite tight, much like the HD-800. The HE-6 is my "go to" can for pretty much everything, unless I really want to dig deep in the music, like classical for example, I will don the HD-800. I regretted selling the HE-6 before and now I own them for the second time and couldn't be happier.

 

 

 

I hear what both of you are saying. And pretty much agree with each of your comments. I'll skip the usual disclaimers since we're each experienced (setup, environment, preferences, quality of recording, listening ability/sensitivity and last food/drink consumption :tongue_smile:).

 

Further, I'll be the first to admit I am not done testing... the D7000! While I had four months to sit in with both cans on the same receiver, each was with HPO. Obviously, the HE-6 seems to benefit with some of the vintage flagships via speaker taps. Despite being an efficient 25 Ohms, I'm wondering if the D7000 wouldn't also reach the next level via taps. I sold mine off too soon! But I'm gonna try it one day.

 

While everyone enjoys indicting the former Denon flagship, on some nights, on some tracks, it will flat-out deliver! Many here on HF seek the perfect cans - it doesn't exist for me. And think anything with a U-Shape freq is well... a freak! And a dirty word. :rolleyes: 

 

For me, the Bass on the D7000 is gorgeous. I don't worry about the accusations of it being coloured either. Some gears will do this without the head-fier's knowledge (Preamps, anyone?) One thing the D7000 does better than the HE-6 is Mid-Bass. Or the lack of it, to be sure. I find it toned down and out of the way on a lot of material. If I had my grubby lil hands on an EQ, the Mid-Bass would be the first lever to hit the slide. Not slammed necessarily or always. But, with the HE-6 this sometimes gets in the way of the Bass. Material dependent, sometimes the HE-6 gets away with it and trips badly when it doesn't. Akin to a dance partner stepping on the other's toes. 

 

However, make no mistake, the Bass on the HE-6 can be quite good!

 

The Mids on the HE-6 on the other hand... man! A whole lotta magic! It's what sold me on the HiFiMan's. When I returned listening to the D7000, I didn't know what happened! Blunt force trauma :confused:

 

Operator:  "9-1-1 What's your emergency?"

        SO: "I entered the listening room and found the Denon non-responsive! May have been violently attacked!!!"

 

 

The Treble on both sometimes raises an eyebrow. This is recording dependent, however. Back to my mentioning delivery. Listening levels may leave me challenged on occasion. With the HE-6, much of audio goodness - the cream in the middle - comes mainly at higher volumes. Sometimes, only slightly higher. Other times, too high for too long. Not that I wouldn't enjoy good music at higher volumes. But from a hearing conservation point-of-view, much of the pay-off is likely to be left on the table unused. 

 

That 25 Ohm efficient D7000 though, the cream in the middle can come at nearly any level. To be fair, I must point out that these views are subject to change in a hurry! Because they are largely based on my experience with the two cans and the vintage Pioneer SX-D7000 via HPO. I did use the taps on the receiver back then, but it wasn't a fair comparison, so I returned to evaluating the cans thru HPO.

 

That said, a new relationship has bloomed. The HiFiMan HE-6 leashed up to the Sansui G-22000 via speaker taps could be described as submissive delicious. :normal_smile : And I'm going to make them do what they do, baby!


Edited by Silent One - 10/17/13 at 12:24am
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post

 

 

 

I'm surprised they weren't shipped in a PVC pipe because of how stiff the cable is supposed to be.

 

I've only got 4 hours with the cans. But, while they are stiffer than what would be considered normal, not bad. Also, they're not as heavy as I feared. I'm already getting used to adaptive seating positions to compensate for their difference. Something that will continue to naturally occur as I settle in with them. 

 

It may take awhile before I learn what the cable sounds like - the presentation it's capable of returning. Because I never heard the Sansui in the current config at full potential before. So, I am largely enamored with the presentation of the amp. As I put on the hours and put on another cable, I'll know more.

 

Still, I'm satisfied with the purchase...

 

However, one thing is for certain - I'm gonna need higher quality resistors with the tube amps than the HiFiMan stockers. Can you recommend a place around LA that'll solder?


Edited by Silent One - 10/17/13 at 12:40am
post #9660 of 19438
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

 

I've only got 4 hours with the cans. But, while they are stiffer than what would be considered normal, not bad. Also, they're not as heavy as I feared. I'm already getting used to adaptive seating positions to compensate for their difference. Something that will continue to naturally occur as I settle in with them. 

 

It may take awhile before I learn what the cable sounds like - the presentation it's capable of returning. Because I never heard the Sansui in the current config at full potential before. So, I am largely enamored with the presentation of the amp. As I put on the hours and put on another cable, I'll know more.

 

Still, I'm satisfied with the purchase...

 

However, one thing is for certain - I'm gonna need higher quality resistors with the tube amps than the HiFiMan stockers. Can you recommend a place around LA that'll solder?

 

If you swing by the east side, I could help you.

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