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post #9106 of 14883
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

I do believe in cable difference. I just don't find cable opening up pathway to heaven and angel decending down to sing in your ear, especially short run of headphone cable to make significant difference. That said I have been using silver with 1% gold wire for a while (Mundorf) and I like them, to me they're a good compromise between pure silver vs copper. Too cheap (and lazy) to use them for headphone cable however, until Toxic cable came along and I grab one from the classified.

 

About the bass, I don't find pure silver cable lacking bass; nor do I find the silver/gold wire to do any "miracle" in that department. If you want to try the silver mixed with gold wire ; there's plenty of places that sell them without the current atrocious lead time from Toxic cable bigsmile_face.gif. It won't be as pretty as Frank makes them, but at least you don't have to wait half a year. While you're at it, maybe try some crystal piccolino wire too haha.

thanks man! I was wondering about the effect of gold in silver wires. I actually dont find silver wires lacking in bass as well. I am in no rush so I may talk to Frank.

post #9107 of 14883
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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post

thanks man! I was wondering about the effect of gold in silver wires. I actually dont find silver wires lacking in bass as well. I am in no rush so I may talk to Frank.

There's a vendor in the US that offer litz wire (99% silver 1% gold), in both forms (ready made cable/DIY wire). The silver widow from Frank is claimed to have higher gold % than normal, but I guess I don't know how that will affect the sound compared to the normal mundorf wired until one shows up in the classified bigsmile_face.gif

 

There's also the Piccolino cable (lots of mumbo jumbo jargon around this one, but in a nutshell still gold injected silver wire) which cost north of 1200 bucks per cable. If you got the funds, do it for scienceeee tongue_smile.gif 

 

post #9108 of 14883
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Originally Posted by khaine1711 View Post

There's a vendor in the US that offer litz wire (99% silver 1% gold), in both forms (ready made cable/DIY wire). The silver widow from Frank is claimed to have higher gold % than normal, but I guess I don't know how that will affect the sound compared to the normal mundorf wired until one shows up in the classified bigsmile_face.gif

 

There's also the Piccolino cable (lots of mumbo jumbo jargon around this one, but in a nutshell still gold injected silver wire) which cost north of 1200 bucks per cable. If you got the funds, do it for scienceeee tongue_smile.gif 

 

thanks man! all good info. Still I dont think I would be dropping any serious money on cables soon. I am currently thinking of getting a tube amp for my collection and then the wife and i are planning home improvements so funds will be low,

post #9109 of 14883

I'm still using the original cable though there's some oxidation. I don't think the oxidation has any affect on the SQ.

post #9110 of 14883
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Originally Posted by wuwhere View Post

I'm still using the original cable though there's some oxidation. I don't think the oxidation has any affect on the SQ.

No if doesn't.
I am using the original HE~6 silver cable and am really happy with it as well. Not too flexible but really durable wink.gif
post #9111 of 14883
Original cable here too though I have a feeling that changing cables might affect the impedance as planars have fixed impedance. Is this correct?
post #9112 of 14883
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post


No if doesn't.
I am using the original HE~6 silver cable and am really happy with it as well. Not too flexible but really durable wink.gif

what is the original silver cable? mine was supplied with a balanced occ copper cable and occ copper adapter balanced->unbalanced

post #9113 of 14883
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Originally Posted by alota View Post

what is the original silver cable? mine was supplied with a balanced occ copper cable and occ copper adapter balanced->unbalanced

 

It was a very early one, supplied with the HE-5/ very early (possibly prototype) HE-6.

I bought it separately from a head-fier as it is not available anymore

 

The advantage is that it is sleeved.

 

Also used to come with a XLR-1/8 cable

 

Might have been the best cable HiFiMAN supplied, but was probably too expensive to make (allegedly)


Edited by conquerator2 - 7/4/13 at 2:05am
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post #9115 of 14883
I think I've figured out how to make my he-6's sing... If I turn the volume way up high on my pre amp (musical fidelity m1) before I then start adding volume through my speaker amp (marantz pm6004), it sounds much better than low volume from the pre amp and high volume from the speaker amp. I wonder why that is?
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How is it better?
post #9117 of 14883
I guess the main word that springs to mind is 'cleaner.' Also the bass seems a bit more impactful. Plus if I have the pre amp turned down but the speaker amp turned up, there is a noticeable hiss in the background when the music breaks between tracks. If the pre amp is turned up higher then I lose the hiss. Just interested to know the 'science' behind it.
post #9118 of 14883

Makes sense since you are increasing the signal and the noise stays the same.  

post #9119 of 14883
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Originally Posted by gonzfi View Post

I guess the main word that springs to mind is 'cleaner.' Also the bass seems a bit more impactful. Plus if I have the pre amp turned down but the speaker amp turned up, there is a noticeable hiss in the background when the music breaks between tracks. If the pre amp is turned up higher then I lose the hiss. Just interested to know the 'science' behind it.

 

Your amp should have a better volume pot than the volume circuit on your M1.

 

That plus what Solude mentionned regarding the Signal/Noise Ratio which obviously decreases together with the signal level.

 

The worst case would be to use a high gain mode on your amp (if available) while feeding a weak signal: to the worse SNR is added the internal noise in your amp that is amplified as a result of using a higher amplification gain.

post #9120 of 14883
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Originally Posted by gonzfi View Post

I think I've figured out how to make my he-6's sing... If I turn the volume way up high on my pre amp (musical fidelity m1) before I then start adding volume through my speaker amp (marantz pm6004), it sounds much better than low volume from the pre amp and high volume from the speaker amp. I wonder why that is?

If you are using the volume on the amp seems it would be better just to bypass the preamp.
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