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post #7456 of 14006

Interesting....

 

Naw,  I'll stick with the HE-6 as it is.  After all, the HE-6 as we know it is not the HE-6 without the HE-6 velour pads.biggrin.gif  IMO...

 

I like how you made the text real small then said it's hardly noticeable.  That was great.  

post #7457 of 14006
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

Here's my take on the HE-6 w/ LCD-3 pads:

 

Soundstage width really becomes larger. Instantly apparent. The left and right is larger than my HD800, it sounds very much like speakers. The depth and height also increases, but not as much. You really get much more airiness in the sound; it's nice, but does have drawbacks.

 

The bass becomes less visceral and loses some of its warmth/ seems to decay faster. The bass presence is basically diminished.

 

The highs become much crisper which, and to my ears, are much better in terms of accuracy/timbre/realism. However, they do get a bit crunchy so it can equally be a drawback. The timbre of cymbal splashes/crashes is unparalleled and better than how my HD800 would render them; yet so real is may be agressive. In contrast, with the velours, the HE-6 sometimes have a bit more of a graininess to the highs past 6khz; it seems as though they're not as refined. Some people sometimes complain about the weird little peaks in the HE-6's highs (but it's hardly noticeable unless you try hard to find them or compare to HD800/LCD3), which to me are their only slight weakness. The LCD3 pads seem to correct timbre and natural decay of most high frequency notes but at the expense of the whole sounding more forward.

 

Basically, LCD3 pads on the HE-6 image much better (which is incredible considering HE-6 with velour image better than LCD-3 to me), soundstage becomes much wider, slightly deeper and higer, highs become more prominent but more accurate and the bass as a result, seems to be a bit recessed. As for most of the mids, 300-2000hz, it's much harder to tell a difference. I'd say it's really negligible. Maybe it's a bit more transparent, I couldn't really tell you.

 

The HE-6 with LCD3 pads actually sound a lot like the HD800, but still with better impact and overall midrange (mainly vocals) rendition. Highs might be better, it's real hard to say. Still, nothing images or creates a stage like the HD800.

 

I think the only big drawback is the bass recession. Unfortunately it cannot be fully corrected with EQ; you simply cannot bring back the depth and viscerality of the bass through EQ, only correct the tone. Maybe when I get back my vintage amps from the cleaner will the pairing be perfect. The HE-6 off the vintage amps I own extends so much lower in the bass vs the mjolnir, and they add a lot of dimension to the bass. So maybe the LCD3 pads with the vintage Sansui/Marantz will synergize perfectly (I'm hoping!).

 

By the way, comfort with the LCD3 pads is top notch. It's not as light as the HD800, but I think the weight distribution is perfect. And because the headphones aren't quite as large, I don't get jaw-line stress with the HE-6 compared to the HD800. So the HE-6 with LCD3 pads may even last on longer listening sessions. I may even go as far as to say it's more comfortable than the HD800 on my head redface.gif

 

Honestly, HiFiMAN should consider making angled memory foam velour earpads. I'm sure they can upgrade their pads for the better in terms of comfort and sound. The imaging and soundstage alone make me think the LCD3 pads may be preferred by many over HiFiMAN's current offerings.

 

That's why I am using Audeze Vegan (velour) pads.biggrin.gif

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That's why I am using Audeze Vegan (velour) pads.biggrin.gif

 

Were the pads a nightmare to put on? I went with the lawton audio pads for my HE-500s and like them very much. They slip right on the ring. I plan to put them on the HE-6 but I'm still curious about the Audeze vegans. Hideous as the vegans look on the HE-6, I bet they are very comfortable.


Edited by kidchunks - 12/6/12 at 12:53pm
post #7459 of 14006
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Were the pads a nightmare to put on? I went with the lawton audio pads for my HE-500s and like them very much. They slip right on the ring. I plan to put them on the HE-6 but I'm still curious about the Audeze vegans. Hideous as the vegans look on the HE-6, I bet they are very comfortable.

They would be awesome of they were black but oh well…. They are very comfortable and also move the soundstage to the front of you more. I really like the sound with them after many other I tried. No. they were very easy to put in.

post #7460 of 14006

I wonder if result is similiar to add another pair of original pads on already installed. Everyone could try that and its possible tolisten:)

post #7461 of 14006

has any one heard the EF-6 and a vintage amp/receiver with the he-6? i would love to hear what the differences are. also please specify what vintage model you are comparing to. Thanks!

post #7462 of 14006

Skylab has..

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Skylab has..

Thanks Preproman. I also saw Headphone Addict did a really nice writeup in the EF6 thread. I was considering the EF6 sometime down the line, but I think I will get a speaker amp to dirve these. Who knows, maybe my Onkyo will do a decent enough job that I will be able to put of a new purchase for long enough to get something really good for my HE-6 and HD800 (thinking Stratus here) or HE-6 and speakers (something like WA5 or the full size Decware Torii)


Edited by Cante Ista - 12/12/12 at 12:56pm
post #7464 of 14006
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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post

Thanks Preproman. I also saw Headphone Addict did a really nice writeup in the EF6 thread. I was considering the EF6 sometime down the line, but I think I will get a speaker amp to dirve these. Who knows, maybe my Onkyo will do a decent enough job that I will be able to put of a new purchase for long enough to get something really good for my HE-6 and HD800 (thinking Stratus here) or HE-6 and speakers (something like WA5 or the full size Decware Torii)

 

The more I used the EF-6 the more I liked it.  While the Marantz 2240 was pretty good with the HE-6 and HE-800 as well, I do think the EF-6 is hands down a more high-end amp.  I actually don't have the Marantz hooked up to my headphone rig anymore, because the volume knob is too noisy and I'm too lazy to clean it or pay someone to do it for me.  I might even sell it, although it drives my Epos ESL-3 speakers so well that I'm hesitant to do that.  My son basically uses it in the basement with the Epos to play his iPhone music while shooting pool with friends.

post #7465 of 14006
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post

 

The more I used the EF-6 the more I liked it.  While the Marantz 2240 was pretty good with the HE-6 and HE-800 as well, I do think the EF-6 is hands down a more high-end amp.  I actually don't have the Marantz hooked up to my headphone rig anymore, because the volume knob is too noisy and I'm too lazy to clean it or pay someone to do it for me.  I might even sell it, although it drives my Epos ESL-3 speakers so well that I'm hesitant to do that.  My son basically uses it in the basement with the Epos to play his iPhone music while shooting pool with friends.

hmmmm....thanks for the update on that. Sounds like the ef6 is really worth looking into afterall. Also sounds like you are in the running for coolest dad. Cool audio gear and a pool table - wish i had that in my parents basement when i was growing up. Really cool!

post #7466 of 14006
I commented on that specifically in my InnerFidelity review of the EF-6.
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I commented on that specifically in my InnerFidelity review of the EF-6.

thanks Sky. I actually read that before but did not catch that you wrote it, even though I know you took up a position on that roster. Thanks again, nice write up. 

post #7468 of 14006
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Originally Posted by Cante Ista View Post

Thanks Preproman. I also saw Headphone Addict did a really nice writeup in the EF6 thread. I was considering the EF6 sometime down the line, but I think I will get a speaker amp to dirve these. Who knows, maybe my Onkyo will do a decent enough job that I will be able to put of a new purchase for long enough to get something really good for my HE-6 and HD800 (thinking Stratus here) or HE-6 and speakers (something like WA5 or the full size Decware Torii)

The WA5 with the right tubes and the K1000 output will do a good job. My WA5-LE out of the high current output does a pretty decent job with them and the K1000 has a lot more power than the regular headphone outputs.

post #7469 of 14006

)thanks all. I actually pulled the trigger on the HE-6 this weekend, at DC meet, where I heard them with new GSX. I did lots of ABing with LCD3. for a while was ready to buy either, but HE-6 won with symphonic music, which I think is a true test for any music system. Dont get me wrong, I listen to a lot of modern fun music but I really don't think it is that challenging and most average systems can handle most (not all but most) rock or pop. Anyway, thanks all for suggestions. I wonna add the new GSX to the mix. Def worth an audition! 

post #7470 of 14006

I'm reviewing the HE-6s now, does anyone use anything other than the smallest headband size? Even the smallest is a little big for me.

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