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post #7441 of 13009

If your are talking to me, I already own HE6 and HD800.

And at least 20 other dynamic headphones.

Electrostats... I can't count that high.

 

lil-knight will be selling  the boards. all the boards

i'm going to change the on board heatsink version of the SS dynahi to

take the thatcorp bipolar input chip because i'm tired of waiting for the

fets.

 

here is the onboard version in progress

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/ssdynahionboard.jpg

all current manufacture onsemi parts replace the almost impossible

to find old parts.

 

The ksa5 is a sweet amp. Very quiet, great for iems, essentially great

for everything unless you want really loud. At +/-22 volt rails it

is voltage limited. Dynahi is +/-30 volt rails, so larger voltage swing

and ssdynahi doubles that voltage swing.

 

On the diy ksa5, if you want to change the servo opamp to opa445

(and same on the power supply) then you can bump the rails to +/-30.

All the parts are minimum 80v rated, so no problem.

 

picture of tom's power supply

http://gilmore.chem.northwestern.edu/dsc_0176.jpg

avel-lindberg made in UK transformer.

 

Its Krell. It gets hot.  Not FPB600 style hot, but plenty hot.

At least you can hold onto the heatsinks. Its pure class A down to 4 ohms.


Edited by kevin gilmore - 12/1/12 at 7:03am
post #7442 of 13009
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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post

Hi Shahrose,

Yes the vegan pads. IMO they are more comfortable and provide a bigger soundstage also moving it a little bit to the front of you due to the angle. The HE-6 Mk II velour pads are my second favorites.


Where do you find the HE-6 Mk II Velour Pads  & Black Plastic Rings for purchase?

 

Thanks

 

Jack

post #7443 of 13009
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Originally Posted by jackiedh View Post


Where do you find the HE-6 Mk II Velour Pads  & Black Plastic Rings for purchase?

 

Thanks

 

Jack

 

Here you go...

http://head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=117

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Here you go...

http://head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=117


Are those the Mk II's?

 

They have no part #

 

And do they come with attaching rings?

 

Thanks

 

Jack

post #7445 of 13009

I'm fairly positive those are MK II. The original version with the harder to attach plastic backing has been out of production for a while.

post #7446 of 13009

Thanks Again

 

Jack

post #7447 of 13009
Hey guys, took apart my lcd3's so i can put the pads on the HE6. I will get back to you

post #7448 of 13009
Quote:
Dynahi is +/-30 volt rails, so larger voltage swing

and ssdynahi doubles that voltage swing.

WANT...!!!!!

post #7449 of 13009
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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 View Post

Hey guys, took apart my lcd3's so i can put the pads on the HE6. I will get back to you
Are we to assume you will also try the velours on the 3s?
post #7450 of 13009
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Are we to assume you will also try the velours on the 3s?

 

 

More like "Demanding Camper"  

 

 

 

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post #7451 of 13009
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More like "Demanding Camper"  



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I was just making conversation. thought while there a pair of 3s just laying there without some pads, I'd be curious to know if it opens up the soundstage for the 3s through the velours.
post #7452 of 13009
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

Are we to assume you will also try the velours on the 3s?

Actually, I tried this, and it's very interesting
post #7453 of 13009
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

I was just making conversation. thought while there a pair of 3s just laying there without some pads, I'd be curious to know if it opens up the soundstage for the 3s through the velours.

 

I know, just giving you a little heckling :)

 

No ill intention on my part


Edited by elwappo99 - 12/5/12 at 3:48pm
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I know, just giving you a little heckling smily_headphones1.gif

No ill intention on my part
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post #7455 of 13009

Here's my take on the HE-6 w/ LCD-3 pads:

 

Soundstage width really becomes larger. Instantly apparent. The left and right is larger than my HD800, it sounds very much like speakers. The depth and height also increases, but not as much. You really get much more airiness in the sound; it's nice, but does have drawbacks.

 

The bass becomes less visceral and loses some of its warmth/ seems to decay faster. The bass presence is basically diminished.

 

The highs become much crisper which, and to my ears, are much better in terms of accuracy/timbre/realism. However, they do get a bit crunchy so it can equally be a drawback. The timbre of cymbal splashes/crashes is unparalleled and better than how my HD800 would render them; yet so real is may be agressive. In contrast, with the velours, the HE-6 sometimes have a bit more of a graininess to the highs past 6khz; it seems as though they're not as refined. Some people sometimes complain about the weird little peaks in the HE-6's highs (but it's hardly noticeable unless you try hard to find them or compare to HD800/LCD3), which to me are their only slight weakness. The LCD3 pads seem to correct timbre and natural decay of most high frequency notes but at the expense of the whole sounding more forward.

 

Basically, LCD3 pads on the HE-6 image much better (which is incredible considering HE-6 with velour image better than LCD-3 to me), soundstage becomes much wider, slightly deeper and higer, highs become more prominent but more accurate and the bass as a result, seems to be a bit recessed. As for most of the mids, 300-2000hz, it's much harder to tell a difference. I'd say it's really negligible. Maybe it's a bit more transparent, I couldn't really tell you.

 

The HE-6 with LCD3 pads actually sound a lot like the HD800, but still with better impact and overall midrange (mainly vocals) rendition. Highs might be better, it's real hard to say. Still, nothing images or creates a stage like the HD800.

 

I think the only big drawback is the bass recession. Unfortunately it cannot be fully corrected with EQ; you simply cannot bring back the depth and viscerality of the bass through EQ, only correct the tone. Maybe when I get back my vintage amps from the cleaner will the pairing be perfect. The HE-6 off the vintage amps I own extends so much lower in the bass vs the mjolnir, and they add a lot of dimension to the bass. So maybe the LCD3 pads with the vintage Sansui/Marantz will synergize perfectly (I'm hoping!).

 

By the way, comfort with the LCD3 pads is top notch. It's not as light as the HD800, but I think the weight distribution is perfect. And because the headphones aren't quite as large, I don't get jaw-line stress with the HE-6 compared to the HD800. So the HE-6 with LCD3 pads may even last on longer listening sessions. I may even go as far as to say it's more comfortable than the HD800 on my head redface.gif

 

Honestly, HiFiMAN should consider making angled memory foam velour earpads. I'm sure they can upgrade their pads for the better in terms of comfort and sound. The imaging and soundstage alone make me think the LCD3 pads may be preferred by many over HiFiMAN's current offerings.

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