HifiMAN HE-6 Planar Magnetic Headphone - Page 489

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Originally Posted by alota 

really interesting.

if the marriage of my beta and my he-6 will not be good, i will try the he-500.

thank you

You have a Beta22? That's great. I tell you sir, I first tried my new out of the box pair of HE500s with my Rudistor RP010B amp with the stock cable unbalanced and I couldn't stop listening.

It may have been the best new-phone experience ever. I sure would try them with your amp no matter what else happens.

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Originally Posted by IEMCrazy 

 

That's the part few people talk about with amplifiers.  The volume level you set is more or less not related at all to the amount of output power.  It's a factor of the output voltage from the preamp (or from the source to the preamp), the input sensitivity of the amplifier, and the gain factor of the amplifier.   You could build a million watt amplifier that barely gets enough volume on HE-6 if it's theoretically non-existent gain from a quiet source and low sensitivity inputs.

 

Being a 250W @8k amp indicates it is capable of delivering 250W RMS current into 8k if the input voltage peaks the input sensitivity.   But will deliver far less than that if it does not, (and delivering less than that should be the job of the preamp, or boosting so it does deliver that if desired. )   The higher end the amp, usually the lower gain factor, which means lower noise, but also tends to be more in need of a good preamp for driving hard to drive loads (or a good preamp section in an integrated setup).   It's purely coincidence that the output power level needed to drive your listening volume at 8ohm on the Revels happens to match the power level needed to match your listening volume at 50ohm on the HE-6 though

 

That's a pretty powerful amp though to have such a low gain.  I'm guessing it's just a really really good amp....or is it a Class-D amp? D tends to have more difficulty with higher impedance which might be why you're using more available power.

You are correct sir, it is Class D based on B&O ICEpower.  I bought it as a "temporary" until I figured out what "nice" amp I wanted, based upon the glowing reviews, and the fact that I just shelled out a chunk of cash on the Revels.  I can honestly say, however, it really, really sounds great on both the Revel's and the HE-6.  I had also tried using this amp with the HE-6 adaptor box that Hifiman sells, and, although I have not A-B'd it yet, I think the direct connection to the speaker amp sounds better than the box.

I still kind of want to get a really nice class A and a nice tube amp, just for comparison's sake, but I really have no complaints at all with this amp.  I am also thinking about building up a pair of the Hypex NC400 Ncores that everyone is raving about.  Should be fun to try them all with speakers and HE-6.

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Originally Posted by Senn-Fi 

 

You are correct sir, it is Class D based on B&O ICEpower.  I bought it as a "temporary" until I figured out what "nice" amp I wanted, based upon the glowing reviews, and the fact that I just shelled out a chunk of cash on the Revels.  I can honestly say, however, it really, really sounds great on both the Revel's and the HE-6.  I had also tried using this amp with the HE-6 adaptor box that Hifiman sells, and, although I have not A-B'd it yet, I think the direct connection to the speaker amp sounds better than the box.

 

I still kind of want to get a really nice class A and a nice tube amp, just for comparison's sake, but I really have no complaints at all with this amp.  I am also thinking about building up a pair of the Hypex NC400 Ncores that everyone is raving about.  Should be fun to try them all with speakers and HE-6.

Yeah Class-D is actually really nice in a lot of ways, and some of the best (read mega-powered pro-audio rackmount amps with active fans meant to be running in an enclosed, ventilated booth...things that would make even HE-6 melt...quickly...) amps are class-D.  The trouble D has is really with high impedance.  They're kind of optimized around a certain impedance range so when you stick them with an impedance much higher than they're intended for they tend to lack the ability to punch through.  Yours has humungous power reserve to spare, though, so I'd guess it doesn't have a problem with the load, but you just have to set the volume much higher than normal (which is working well!)

Though I actually installed the HE-Adapter on my 140wpc (A/B) amp and found a slight improvement in sound.  I was going to post about that a week ago or so. I don't think the HE-Adapter itself was the source of improvement so much as increasing the impedance allowed me to increase the volume on the source which in turn led to better SNR and probably put me more into the power curve of the amp.  I can see how increasing impedance on a class-D might be a bad thing though, if impedance is already pushing its limits.

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Originally Posted by rgs9200m 

You have a Beta22? That's great. I tell you sir, I first tried my new out of the box pair of HE500s with my Rudistor RP010B amp with the stock cable unbalanced and I couldn't stop listening.

It may have been the best new-phone experience ever. I sure would try them with your amp no matter what else happens.

...and remenber that i have your dx-1000

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Originally Posted by alota 

...and remenber that i have your dx-1000

Thinking about these.  Sort impression please??

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Originally Posted by alota 

...and remenber that i have your dx-1000

Oh right, I forgot. I hope they worked out for you. Best to you!

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Originally Posted by preproman 

 

 

Thinking about these.  Sort impression please??

i´m waitng for recabling and mods.

i will have my stuffs(beta, source, headphones)for the new year.i will wirte in the dx-1000 thread.

i love this headphone but need a setup calbrated for her

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Originally Posted by rgs9200m 

Oh right, I forgot. I hope they worked out for you. Best to you!

thank you!

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Originally Posted by alota 

i´m waitng for recabling and mods.

i will have my stuffs(beta, source, headphones)for the new year.i will wirte in the dx-1000 thread.

i love this headphone but need a setup calbrated for her

thank you!

Which one of the DX-1000 threads is still active?

I sure wish all headphones were as comfortable as the DX-1000s. They're the kind of phones you want to leave on even when you are finished listening.

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Originally Posted by preproman 

 

 

Which one of the DX-1000 threads is still active?

i send a pm to you

So I got some LCD-3's. I have to say I'm disappointed. My HE-6 still remain king, and my HD800's close second. I'm currently driving with the mojo.gung. Through the bryston the lcd-3's were better, but they're still too closed in and dark to me.

So would you say the BHA-1 opens them up more, puts some air between the instruments.  What makes the BHA-1 and the MoJo different with the LCD-3s?

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Originally Posted by dleblanc343 

So I got some LCD-3's. I have to say I'm disappointed. My HE-6 still remain king, and my HD800's close second. I'm currently driving with the mojo.gung. Through the bryston the lcd-3's were better, but they're still too closed in and dark to me.

well the lcd-3 is the headphone most expensive.

between hd-800 and he-6 i prefere the second for the sound and the first for the comfort

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Originally Posted by preproman 

So would you say the BHA-1 opens them up more, puts some air between the instruments.  What makes the BHA-1 and the MoJo different with the LCD-3s?

The bha-1 definitely sounds better with the lcd3 than the mjolnir, but then again, I also think the HE-6 does too. The mjolnir/gung with the lcd3 to me is not a great trio, I think the bass is too prominent and lacks the airiness and width; and especially high frequency extension.

I'm not sure what I should do now, I dont think the audeze house sound is for me, regardless of amping. I definitely do not want to buy another amp at this point.