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Thanks very much for your feedback guys.

 

IEMCrazy, when you say "It's best if you go all the way into amping the HE6 specifically," what exactly do you mean? I know that the Lyr is a rather "cheap" amp compared to other amps used with high-end phones, do you suggest an amp more in the $1000-plus range? Like a Woo amp? Or does the HE-6 have other requirements different from a planar-magnetic headphone like the LCD-2 that necessitate a different amp? I'm sorry for my ignorance about these matters, haha.

 

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by jackskelly View Post

Thanks very much for your feedback guys.

 

IEMCrazy, when you say "It's best if you go all the way into amping the HE6 specifically," what exactly do you mean? I know that the Lyr is a rather "cheap" amp compared to other amps used with high-end phones, do you suggest an amp more in the $1000-plus range? Like a Woo amp? Or does the HE-6 have other requirements different from a planar-magnetic headphone like the LCD-2 that necessitate a different amp? I'm sorry for my ignorance about these matters, haha.

 

Thanks.


Lyr isnt cheap, rather its not a good match for HE6.

 

Moreover, HE6 are very hungry headphones, thats why people here suggest speaker amps to drive them instead of headphone amps ( with exception of Darkstar, EF6, and other handful of amps ) 

 

Even 200 $ amps will do , but speaker amps ( and are more cost effective also )

 

PS : lol, stax calls its HPs ear-speakers, in essence HE6 are the real EAR-SPEAKER

post #6678 of 13048
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Lyr isnt cheap, rather its not a good match for HE6.

 

Moreover, HE6 are very hungry headphones, thats why people here suggest speaker amps to drive them instead of headphone amps ( with exception of Darkstar, EF6, and other handful of amps ) 

 

Even 200 $ amps will do , but speaker amps ( and are more cost effective also )

 

PS : lol, stax calls its HPs ear-speakers, in essence HE6 are the real EAR-SPEAKER

 

 

+1  So right

post #6679 of 13048

I found this photo just poking around here, I believe Skylab took it.

That is a Threshold 400A that was used to demo the HE-6 before it went into production.

 

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Originally Posted by wuwhere View Post

I found this photo just poking around here, I believe Skylab took it.

That is a Threshold 400A that was used to demo the HE-6 before it went into production.

 

 

 

 

Good greef.

 

Do they still sell those?

post #6681 of 13048
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Good greef.

 

Do they still sell those?

Just in the used market. i actually listened to that exactly set. It was at CanJam 2010 in Chicago.

Those HE-6 were the prototype ones and were more inefficient that the production ones. I would use the HiFiman adapter box if you are goig to use an amplifier of 80 watts/ch at 8 ohms or higher. I am almost sure that was Fang's recommendation.

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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post

Just in the used market. i actually listened to that exactly set. It was at CanJam 2010 in Chicago.

Those HE-6 were the prototype ones and were more inefficient that the production ones. I would use the HiFiman adapter box if you are goig to use an amplifier of 80 watts/ch at 8 ohms or higher. I am almost sure that was Fang's recommendation.

 

 

Tell me more about the adapter box?  Are you sure we nned it.  I was going to get my HE-6s hard wired from the cup to a set of banana clips.  While being used on a pair of 200wpc mono blocks.

 

I alresy use the mono blocks now with the HE-6s with out any isses.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the adapter box (or a set of resistors) more useful if you're trying to protect the x-former of a tube amplifier?

 

IIRC, Fang said not to worry about that issue with solid state amps.  I've seen and heard an HE-6 work fine off a 80w/ch into 50 ohm (!) amp.  Ditto for K1Ks.  

 

(Playing it safe with the volume of course.  Overkill if you ask me.)

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Yeah that was my picture, and that was my first taste of the original HE-6, at CanJam. There were actually two versions Fang had at that show. I couldn't believe he was driving them with a Threshold. What a beast! It's actually all Fang's fault that a bunch of us got into driving the HE-6 with powerful vintage amps. The Threshold is early 80's, IIRC.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the adapter box (or a set of resistors) more useful if you're trying to protect the x-former of a tube amplifier?

 

IIRC, Fang said not to worry about that issue with solid state amps.  I've seen and heard an HE-6 work fine off a 80w/ch into 50 ohm (!) amp.  Ditto for K1Ks.  

 

(Playing it safe with the volume of course.  Overkill if you ask me.)

It helps for both. it has resistors in parallel and in series. The issue is that a 100 wwtas/ch amp will provide 16 watts/ch to the HE-6 so you could run the risk of blowing them.

Read here:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/493214/hifiman-he-6-planar-magnetic-headphone/2010

 

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Tell me more about the adapter box?  Are you sure we nned it.  I was going to get my HE-6s hard wired from the cup to a set of banana clips.  While being used on a pair of 200wpc mono blocks.

 

I alresy use the mono blocks now with the HE-6s with out any isses.

I personally would not do that. 200 watts is to much IMO. Here is the adaptor box:

http://hifiman.us/Products/?pid=104

 

With 50 watts/ch class A I don't go over 9 O'Clock in the volume know of my pre-amp becuase it is already too loud.

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Thank you for the review. I put a resistor in parallel but thought it took some of the dynamics away. I went back to playing directly off the posts. preproman, I see you modified your wattage on those. I will modify my statements.
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I did try the resistors too in my Threshold T50 but I did not like the effect in the sound so I removed them. Since it is 50 watts/ch I really don't need them and it powers the HE-6 wonderfuly even the Aleph 3 with just 30 watts/ch was more than enough to make them really sing.

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I will give the title of best "tonal balance" to Koss ESP950, they are just magnificent in that regard. Frequency response (individually, lows-highs) of  HE6 is way better, but when it comes to "balance", none does it better than the Koss ( haven't heard the orpheus or the SR009 though ).

 

Hope you're right Mr. Singh.  Just ordered them.

post #6689 of 13048
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Thank you for the review. I put a resistor in parallel but thought it took some of the dynamics away. I went back to playing directly off the posts. preproman, I see you modified your wattage on those. I will modify my statements.

 

 

I was reading up on the amps on a few reviews - I said hey - I thought they was  _ _ _  all reviews said they was _ _ _  So I stand corrected.

post #6690 of 13048
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I personally would not do that. 200 watts is to much IMO. Here is the adaptor box:

http://hifiman.us/Products/?pid=104

 

 

 

The way we have been doing it is being very careful with the volume knob.  As long as your not careless with the volume you should be cool.

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