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post #3151 of 15194

I think you'd like them, Peter, since you like the HD800.  The real magic in them, as I mentioned, is not so much in the FR, as it is in the transparency.

post #3152 of 15194

No LCD-2 flaming intended, but I have to say, that between the LCD-2's and HE-6's, from what I heard at the Bay Area Meet, I would certainly pick a good HE-6 setup any day. The Head-Direct designed EF-5 was magnificent with the HE-6. I feel like the HE-6's get little attention on this site for what they are. Anybody care to express their opinions on the two? Similarities and differences? I din't quite get enough time with either to write a full response, but I simply enjoyed the HE-6 more.

post #3153 of 15194
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Originally Posted by Mdraluck23 View Post

No LCD-2 flaming intended, but I have to say, that between the LCD-2's and HE-6's, from what I heard at the Bay Area Meet, I would certainly pick a good HE-6 setup any day. The Head-Direct designed EF-5 was magnificent with the HE-6. I feel like the HE-6's get little attention on this site for what they are. Anybody care to express their opinions on the two? Similarities and differences? I din't quite get enough time with either to write a full response, but I simply enjoyed the HE-6 more.

I think upon first blush it may appear that way, and I would agree. But upon further listening to me, they are on an even playing field both with strength of their own, diminishing neither and neither to me, supplant the other. 
 

 

post #3154 of 15194

Mdraluck23, there have been a # of comparisons in this and other threads. most who've spent significant time with either or both cans love them, some preferring one or the other, though preferences by large margins for one or the other are less common. for example skylab somewhat prefers the lcd2, frank I prefers the he6, and jamato likes 'em both about the same.

post #3155 of 15194

Hey Frank,  I wonder why you felt the D7000s were the closed cans to compliment your HE-6s?

 

 

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Except in my experience closed cans have more bass than the graph indicates. (on-ear cans like PX100 have less bass than graph shows, but over-ear open cans seem to be accurate).

 

Its difficult to gauge how an individual would react to a treble spike, I never would have believed in individual HRTFs if it wasn't for my experience with the T1...I never heard that 10db treble spike...all I heard was the massive roll-off straight after it!  It never sounded bright in the treble to me, but actually dark...very dark in the treble.  Everyone else heard differently to me WRT the T1 specifically.


Edited by SP Wild - 3/7/11 at 4:01pm
post #3156 of 15194

Sam for me the D7000 is an outstanding headphone and for times when I want to listen to music and not disturb my wife they work and she cant hear the music. They are one of most favorite cans. The HE6 is when no one is around and listend to more but they cant hear the music when I have my D7000 on s o it does not disturb the TV session for them

post #3157 of 15194

I just realized how one sided I sounded earlier. I didn't mean that they were SIGNIFICANTLY better or worse. I am a long way from my next upgrade, as I am quite content with my HD600's at the moment. I just figured it couldn't hurt to do a bit of probing. It seems to me that a great setup with the HE-6 is cheaper on average than a great setup with the LCD-2. Some of the awesome setups I heard with the LCD-2's sounded noticeably better, but at a noticeably higher cost than an HE-6 setup.

post #3158 of 15194
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I just realized how one sided I sounded earlier. I didn't mean that they were SIGNIFICANTLY better or worse. I am a long way from my next upgrade, as I am quite content with my HD600's at the moment. I just figured it couldn't hurt to do a bit of probing. It seems to me that a great setup with the HE-6 is cheaper on average than a great setup with the LCD-2. Some of the awesome setups I heard with the LCD-2's sounded noticeably better, but at a noticeably higher cost than an HE-6 setup.



I am trying to figure out your last two post which did you like better. the first said the HE6 and the second said the LCD2. I had both and sold the LCD2 not because I did not like it but I preferred the more open and spacial sound stage of the HE6 and my setup were identical same price not seperate setups and I have about 7K invested in the complete setup.

post #3159 of 15194

 

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Actually, the T1 will seem to have a lower level of deep bass than the HE-6 because the upper bass is elevated higher than the deep bass with the T1, versus the HE-6, where the deep bass is higher in level than the upper bass.  I also find the HE-6 to be slightly hotter in the treble overall than the T1, and have always thought and said so.


Yet there is a dramatic drop-off just past 10 Hz on the HE-6 that the others don't have, which would indicate deeper bass extension with the T1 and HD800. I've never heard the T1 but the HD800 does sound like it extends very low, the frustrating thing is there's just not enough of it relative to the higher frequencies.

 

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Edited by grokit - 3/7/11 at 7:42pm
post #3160 of 15194
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Yet there is a dramatic drop-off just past 10 Hz on the HE-6 that the others don't have, which would indicate deeper bass extension with the T1 and HD800. I've never heard the T1 but the HD800 does sound like it extends very low, the frustrating thing is there's just not enough of it relative to the higher frequencies. 

 


Below 10 Hz? You're joking, right? Below 20 Hz is not audible. Even 20 Hz isn't really audible via headphones, as you have to FEEL 20Hz in your chest bone to sense it.

What you see on a graph below 20 Hz has absolutely no relevance in terms of headphone performance.
post #3161 of 15194

I preferred the HE-6 on all setups, but the LCD-2 with ridiculously expensive setups sounded very very good, just a bit different. 

post #3162 of 15194

I feel the plates of the earth moving and sometimes it bothers my sleep, you guys have just gotten used to it. . . . . 

 

:^)

post #3163 of 15194

I think the HD800 does extend a little further than the HE6.  At least it sounds this way to me but we're talking just about minor impact differences.

 

Asking me to choose between the two headphones is like asking me to pick a favorite Beatles song.  Can't really be done, can it? :)

post #3164 of 15194

Below 10hz is not really important IMO.

post #3165 of 15194
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post

 


Yet there is a dramatic drop-off just past 10 Hz on the HE-6 that the others don't have, which would indicate deeper bass extension with the T1 and HD800. I've never heard the T1 but the HD800 does sound like it extends very low, the frustrating thing is there's just not enough of it relative to the higher frequencies. 

 




Below 10 Hz? You're joking, right? Below 20 Hz is not audible. Even 20 Hz isn't really audible via headphones, as you have to FEEL 20Hz in your chest bone to sense it.

What you see on a graph below 20 Hz has absolutely no relevance in terms of headphone performance.

maybe you have poor hearing, i just used sinegen and could hear 15Hz which is as low as it goes
 

 

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