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post #3106 of 13022
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

I just got my Oppo BD-95. I saw the volume control function, but if it is a digital volume control, meaning the volume is reduced in the digital domain, anything below 100% will be reducing resolution.


Is it digital? I'm still burning it in so it may change. I just tried it at 100% and lowered my amp's vol. I prefer to set the amp at max and the BDP-95 at 40.

post #3107 of 13022
I'm not sure. I need to find out, although I will leave mine at 100% anyway, very likely.

So far I like the 95 very much though. Sorry to everyone for the OT post.
post #3108 of 13022

I like it a lot too with my HE-6. There I mentioned HE-6 so its on topic. :-)

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Originally Posted by 9pintube 

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grokit,   I'm not trying to start any arguments but why are you defending this relatively high dollar headphone manufacturer for just plain poor workman ship/ quality control issues??? In the post before you say something to the effect of "It's just growing pains"  Hey I think the members of Head-Fi who are thinking of spending their hard earned bucks on these cans that have been so "highly praised" should know some of their pit falls also, don't you????? Like I said, I'd be pissed off if I had a pr of these and had to pay to send them back to be fixed, for many of the same issues that they've seen before and are "Quick Fixing" the same design problems......just wondering......

 

All I said was that while they're not perfect, they seem to be trying. I did say that I went through two bad HE-5s before I got a good one, and that the process of getting that good one left a bit to be desired. I also said that I paid to send them back three times, one of those times totally unnecessarily. Then I said that my HE-6 seems okay but is not without issue either, as in little lightning bolts flying into my right ear. How is that defending a company?

 

I suppose for a while I felt that they owed me $100 for the return shipping of the HE-5 three times, but then they gave me the additional $100 rebate when I got the HE-6 along with the $200 introductory discount so I do feel that the account has been balanced for the most part.

 

That's the first time I've been criticized for not being critical enough though tongue.gif

grokit,   If you're happy then I do apologize for being upset with your problems and that many guys have had small but aggravating issues with these headphones.... I'm sure not in the camp off "mine are better then yours", Just kinda sad that many have to be the "test product group" while this company works out their little problems........I'm just glad so many of the HE-6 owners (brothers, if you will) are extremely happy with this headphone..... PS. I've heard them at my home through my equipment, Happy Campers HE-6's and liked them when we hooked them up to one of my extra Single ended "speaker" amps......so sorry for being critical, OK..........duke.......I just dislike when people get burnt or at least have to do without their cans while they're being shipped back and forth.......

 

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I heard about the moving adjusters on the HE6 a few times on this thread.  I don't consider this a defect at all.  There are other headphones that move so much more and they are just considered the nature of the beast.  When I got my HE6 I found that though the movement was quite stiff on the adjusters, the rail that they travel on was slick to the feel.  I found that the right side moves 1/8 an in" while they are not used.  I Just used rubbing alcohol to clean the rails and they never moved again.  Just slide them all the way and wipe, let dry, slide all the way down and wipe again.  Front and back.

 

 

 

post #3111 of 13022
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Originally Posted by singh View Post

^^ wait till you hear my story.!!

if id my situation does not get better in few days , i will go public :( 

Go public even if it does get sorted out, imo we deserve to know... If they are doing something unacceptable then it should be told as a warning to potential buyers. I know I like to know that kind of info before I buy anything that is $1200.
 

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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

 

I consider this a design quirk, not a defect, IMO, in that ALL of the HE-6 do this.  At first the adjusters return to their smallest position, but after time, they stay where they are set.  It is not possible to return them and get a different pair that fixes this problem because they ALL have this problem, based on what has been posted here.

Ummm... its a defect both of my friends HE-6, both his HE-5LE, and both his HE-5's never had the issue. And I'm sorry but $1200 headphones should be quirk free anyway, end of story...
 

 


Edited by Baird GoW - 3/6/11 at 12:40pm
post #3112 of 13022
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post

I just got my Oppo BD-95. I saw the volume control function, but if it is a digital volume control, meaning the volume is reduced in the digital domain, anything below 100% will be reducing resolution.


Isn't this a function of the word length (bit depth or resolution) of the digital volume control? So that e.g., if the music were recorded using a 192 khz sampling rate and a 24 bit sample size and the digital volume control uses and 32 bit word length, then there will be no reduction in resolution when volume is < 100%. Does anyone know if the Oppo volume control is analog or digital; and if it is digital, its resolution?

 

post #3113 of 13022
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Originally Posted by Baird GoW View Post

 

Ummm... its a defect both of my friends HE-6, both his HE-5LE, and both his HE-5's never had the issue. And I'm sorry but $1200 headphones should be quirk free anyway, end of story...


Yet I have not seen what your issue is in person, so I too think it is imaginary.

post #3114 of 13022

Just for the record,

I have not noticed any quality issues or the static electricity problem with my HE6s (I actually had the static shock problem once or twice from my HD800s on a dry day when I stood up with them on).

Nor do I have any problems with the adjustments or any slippage problem. So no physical/quality/ergonomic/comfort/weight issues for me at all. Mine are new from February 2011.

I think the design is great.

 

OK, the only thing I will mention are the small screw-on cable connectors on the cups took me a few tries to attach, as they are small and take some dexterity.

But I managed it successfully and now all is fine.

 

I would only ask for the option of a longer cable and XLR connections.

post #3115 of 13022
My HE6 took too long to confirm and locate my order but other than that they have been perfect. I used a small needle nose set of pliers and a small 6mm? Spanner to put on the cables and they haven't moved since.

I really wish that Hifiman included the amplifier speaker taps extension cable with the headphones but otherwise I am 150% happy. They are fantastic cans. One other problem that they do have is that they cause redundancy of my other headphones. I want to use my old K702's but the HE6 are so good that I can't do it for long at all.
post #3116 of 13022
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Originally Posted by Baird GoW View Post

Ummm... its a defect both of my friends HE-6, both his HE-5LE, and both his HE-5's never had the issue. And I'm sorry but $1200 headphones should be quirk free anyway, end of story...
 

 

You missed my point, which was that one cannot return HE-6's that have this issue for another pair and expect it to be resolved, since they ALL do this.

And while you can say whatever you want, I own almost every current high end headphone there is, and none of them are "quirk free". Nice idea, but not reality.
post #3117 of 13022
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Originally Posted by rlawli View Post




Isn't this a function of the word length (bit depth or resolution) of the digital volume control? So that e.g., if the music were recorded using a 192 khz sampling rate and a 24 bit sample size and the digital volume control uses and 32 bit word length, then there will be no reduction in resolution when volume is < 100%. Does anyone know if the Oppo volume control is analog or digital; and if it is digital, its resolution?

 



I was thinking of that too. All sources are digital so the only time it is converted back to analog is at the DAC. So the output voltage amplitude would have to be controlled by the volume control after the DAC. And that should not affect the resolution. Sorry for the OT.

post #3118 of 13022
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Originally Posted by rlawli View Post




Isn't this a function of the word length (bit depth or resolution) of the digital volume control? So that e.g., if the music were recorded using a 192 khz sampling rate and a 24 bit sample size and the digital volume control uses and 32 bit word length, then there will be no reduction in resolution when volume is < 100%. Does anyone know if the Oppo volume control is analog or digital; and if it is digital, its resolution?

 


Doesn't the Oppo use a 32 bit Sabre.  If so, I am willing to place a bet that the volume control is the one digitally built into the Sabre...the Sabre being 32 bit, in theory no loss in resolution unless attenuated more than 50 percent (50 percent of 32 bit is 16 bit...hence no loss in CD lossless quality).

 

post #3119 of 13022
Right, unless of course one is listening to 24 bit recordings, which I spent a good bit of today doing on the Oppo biggrin.gif
post #3120 of 13022

Ever so true :P.
 

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