HifiMAN HE-6 Planar Magnetic Headphone
Jan 23, 2011 at 1:21 AM Post #2,551 of 21,867

 
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Jian's comment about being Chinese and proud of a chinese company making it, falls under the category of  "No conversations about politics, religion or race" and for a while a year back, members were getting banned about broaching the subject in violation of the TOU. Race had nothing to do with the subject.
 


"Chinese" is a nationality, not a race. according to your interpretation, any post proclaiming pride by Americans in "made in the USA" products, of which there are many, would also be in breach of the TOU and subject to bans, no?

 
I, and many, many others I know, am a Chinese who is racially Chinese but doesn't identify with the nationality.
 
I love my HE6 to bits, but I don't think what race Fang is has any relevance to the glorious sound from these cans.
 
BTW, what is the impedance box supposed to do? I have my HE6s hooked up to a Virtue speaker amp, but should I be careful abt turning up the volume too high in case they destroy them?
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 1:26 AM Post #2,552 of 21,867
That is a tiny part of the picture that I was painting. It seems that all some people like to do is gripe. What about the other 99% of the things that I wrote in my post.
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 1:37 AM Post #2,553 of 21,867
Personally I think it's great that you vouch for Fang. I don't mind the wait; but buying from small companies sometimes scares me because they could be fly-by-night-take-the-money-and-run. Perhaps not deliberately, but maybe they reached a point when they had cashflow issues and everything had to close down. The risk is much smaller from a bigger company.
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 4:06 AM Post #2,554 of 21,867
 
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As for Jians comment about being Chinese.  I personally, interpreted that to mean that he was proud of the achievements of Fang and that the product is a high end product.
 



Thanks for the understanding, that's exactly what I meant. I really don't know where this whole "racist" thing come from
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I wonder too.
 
Back to the topic, I wrote a review of HE6 with leben CS300X and posted it on another forum, but it was in Chinese. I will find time to rewrite it in English and share it here with headfiers.
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Jan 23, 2011 at 4:11 AM Post #2,555 of 21,867
Will have both myself in a few days but just wondering a few things if you don't mind.
 
Which one do you find comfier out of the LCD-2 and HE-6?
 
Do you feel one is technically superior to the other, or are they equal/equalish?
 
IE does one seem to be quicker, better detail, imaging etc.
 
Which one gets most headtime?
 
I am a little worried about the few accounts where people complained the imaging was not nearly as precise as the LCD-2 ( one of my fav "features of the LCD-2) and that the soundstage was odd.
 
thanks!
 
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As for Jians comment about being Chinese.  I personally, interpreted that to mean that he was proud of the achievements of Fang and that the product is a high end product.
 



Thanks for the understanding, that's exactly what I meant. I really don't know where this whole "racist" thing come from
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[size=medium]Jian's comment about being Chinese and proud of a chinese company making it, falls under the category of  "No conversations about politics, religion or race" and for a while a year back, members were getting banned about broaching the subject in violation of the TOU. Race had nothing to do with the subject.[/size]
 




[size=medium]"Chinese" is a nationality, not a race. according to your interpretation, any post proclaiming pride by Americans in "made in the USA" products, of which there are many, would also be in breach of the TOU and subject to bans, no?[/size]


 
I wonder too.
 
Back to the topic, I wrote a review of HE6 with leben CS300X and posted it on another forum, but it was in Chinese. I will find time to rewrite it in English and share it here with headfiers.

 
Jan 23, 2011 at 4:48 AM Post #2,556 of 21,867
To me they both not uncomfortable, but I have to say HE6 is slightly lighter and less torturing when wearing it in the hot Hong Kong summer.

Technical wise I think these two are equal and both full of details with different presentation. As a reviewer said well back in this thread, HE6 showcase the details, and with LCD2 the details are just there.

As for the speed I do think they both attack very quickly, but the decay of LCD2 do seems a bit slower and with slightly better ambiance, which to me is more natural.

There is no problem with the image and soundstage at all IMO, when driving efficiently. But you might get some problems here and there when there is not enough driving force.

Hope this will help:D
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 5:56 AM Post #2,557 of 21,867
Yes but paying by Paypal with a credit card leaves you exposed to zero risk IMHO
 
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Personally I think it's great that you vouch for Fang. I don't mind the wait; but buying from small companies sometimes scares me because they could be fly-by-night-take-the-money-and-run. Perhaps not deliberately, but maybe they reached a point when they had cashflow issues and everything had to close down. The risk is much smaller from a bigger company.



 
Jan 23, 2011 at 9:03 AM Post #2,558 of 21,867
I will be comparing both the LCD2 and HE6 more when I get a pair to demo for a couple of weeks. I must say my feeling changed when I played the HE6 on my Taboo CSP-2 setup yesterday and it was driven very easy by the Taboo. A perfect amp for the HE^ with no resistor and the headphone input putting out the 6W its volume control at less than 9 was outstanding. Fang even liked the T1 out of the Taboo. I will compare all three headphones and then decide which two i will be keeping but if any casualty  comes it will be tough for me to decide which one to axe as they all are outstanding cans. The prototype was here and it as before would not be driven by a headphone amp. The HE6 is much easier to drive if you have some power but does not need a powerful speaker amp just an amp that has some balls and the EF5 drove them also very well but Fang has another amp coming out that he said will do 6W and hybrid and sound very very good.
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 9:46 AM Post #2,559 of 21,867


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That is a tiny part of the picture that I was painting. It seems that all some people like to do is gripe. What about the other 99% of the things that I wrote in my post.



can we get back on topic please?
and lets be honest here,you are obviously biased towards Fang and you always become dramatic in every HeadDirect thread....
 
^^looking forward to your impressions Frank.i like your reviews.
will any inexpensive speaker amp work well for the he6?i saw some locally for about $250-300 and i wonder if they will be good match.they have the power recquirments of he6(6 watts)? can any one comment on that?
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 9:53 AM Post #2,560 of 21,867

 
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That is a tiny part of the picture that I was painting. It seems that all some people like to do is gripe. What about the other 99% of the things that I wrote in my post.



can we get back on topic please?
and lets be honest here,you are obviously biased towards Fang and you always become dramatic in every HeadDirect thread....
 
^^looking forward to your impressions Frank.i like your reviews.
will any inexpensive speaker amp work well for the he6?i saw some locally for about $250-300 and i wonder if they will be good match.they have the power recquirments of he6(6 watts)? can any one comment on that?



The EF5 was 2W and worked well as did the Taboo and I would say yes speaker amps should do the trick but not sure about the 1W Woo6SE as we did not try it on those but if Ross buys that amp I will give it a whirl on the 6SE Make no mistake you need the power but the 2W hybrid as well as my 6W Taboo did the trick without effort.
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 10:01 AM Post #2,561 of 21,867
thx for the answer.
i know that wa6 and wa6se wont be ideal,so i was looking for an inexpensive options.i am still torn between the lcd2 and the he6.i was on the waiting list for lcd2 and when they asked me to pay back on october, i retreated because the reported dark treble like hd650 which i liked but unfortunatly it didnt work for all genres.
we'll see what happens.
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 10:09 AM Post #2,562 of 21,867


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Back to the topic, I wrote a review of HE6 with leben CS300X and posted it on another forum, but it was in Chinese. I will find time to rewrite it in English and share it here with headfiers.



I would love to read your thoughts there.  The Leben's headphone out doesn't have enough juice to do full justice to the HE-6, but from the speaker outs, the Leben + HE-6 is just spectacular, IMHO.
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 11:25 AM Post #2,563 of 21,867
There's been some issues presented about focus, power requirements and break in.
 
They do need to be ran to form their final character. Not as much as a 701 but over a week of listening I was able to hear the changes. The center of the soundstage did sound fuzzy to me using the SP amp. It wasn't as bad with the LCD-2 but it had a fuzzy centerstage too. I was worried that maybe the technology was prone to this problem. Putting the HE-6 on a speaker amp has corrected that issue for me. Seems a bit more power is needed to complete the job for the planars.
 
How much power will be dependent on the amp performance. I would get something that can give you everything the HE-6 can take without compromise. Some amps being ran at the maximum to get there may not have enough reserves for demanding performance. I wouldn't run a 100 watt amp as the amount of wattage isn't the working issue. It's the quality of wattage in the range of about 6-10 watts. A 100 watt amp may not work well at the lower range of performance. Of course if you are doing double duty with speakers out of the amp, you'll want enough to cover your bases for them too.
 
I've been running mine on a ss 70 wpc amp just fine but next week I get the chance to use them on a couple of tube amps. Some 10 watt monoblocks and a 40 watt dual mono. (thanks 9pintube)
 
Either new planar can be built into a world class performance rig. I hope people aren't making decisions based on nationality of the vendor of choice. They will be missing out on some pretty damn good gear.
 
Jan 23, 2011 at 11:29 AM Post #2,564 of 21,867
+1, there is a load of stuff that has no place in this thread - amusing coming from a mod - not
 
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That is a tiny part of the picture that I was painting. It seems that all some people like to do is gripe. What about the other 99% of the things that I wrote in my post.



can we get back on topic please?
and lets be honest here,you are obviously biased towards Fang and you always become dramatic in every HeadDirect thread....
 

 
Jan 23, 2011 at 11:32 AM Post #2,565 of 21,867
hey guys can anyone tell me if the cable for the HE- can be bought anywhere? Head direct only lists one OFC upgrade cable but the HE-6 has a better cable or am I wrong?
 

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