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post #14281 of 14883
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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post


... I have a spare parasound a51. Any thoughts on that amp to drive the he6

 

 

250 watts RMS x 5, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 8 Ω, all channels driven

input and driver stages pure Class A

output stage pure Class A first 8 watts ,

60 amperes peak per channel,

2.2 kVA toroidal transformer and 164,000uF power supply

...

built like a tank, all 80 lbs of it, but much prettier and designed by John Curl to boot! What's not to like?

 

It's laying around, and therefore easy to try, so put it to use (with 5 channels a bit over kill, the A21 would be more portable if you also have one of those). Even if your A51 weren't laying around, you should try it. I'd start out with the Audio Sensitivity Control set to manual, use the balanced inputs, and a passive preamp, if possible. For a full, 80 member symphony orchestra test where all the orchestra sections are easily discernible, get your hands on a copy of Reference Recordings HRx DVD-R 176.4 kHz / 24-bit release of Britten's The Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra, -- Stern/KCS (RR HRx-120). Adjust the volume so that the peak hits 0 dB during the last section; i.e., the molto allegro fugue. During the crescendo pay particular attention to the low end. If the amp doesn't clip, the AB transition doesn't become noticeable, the low end sounds don't become flattened or muddy, or the instruments conflated, the amp will handle anything you might listen to with the HE-6s. In fact, your search for an amp to drive your HE-6s may well be over before you start, room heating in the summer and electric bills aside. At the very least, you'll know what those of us who say "use speaker amps" are talking about.

 

Search this thread for advice on how to sequence turning on/off the signal chain. I start with the source, then preamp, then amp with the HE-6s already plugged into the speaker outputs and turn off in the reverse order. Some plug in their headphones after everything is turned on and unplug them before turning anything off. To minimize risk given this amp's power, I would emphasize as most important that you make sure the gain is set to zero before you turn anything on or off. 

 

And, of course, by all means report back asap :)

post #14282 of 14883

^.  rlawli, thanks for the paragraph of sequential on/off in particular.

post #14283 of 14883
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Originally Posted by rlawli View Post
 

 

 

250 watts RMS x 5, 20 Hz - 20 kHz, 8 Ω, all channels driven

input and driver stages pure Class A

output stage pure Class A first 8 watts ,

60 amperes peak per channel,

2.2 kVA toroidal transformer and 164,000uF power supply

...

built like a tank, all 80 lbs of it, but much prettier and designed by John Curl to boot! What's not to like?

 

It's laying around, and therefore easy to try, so put it to use (with 5 channels a bit over kill, the A21 would be more portable if you also have one of those). Even if your A51 weren't laying around, you should try it. I'd start out with the Audio Sensitivity Control set to manual, use the balanced inputs, and a passive preamp, if possible. For a full, 80 member symphony orchestra test where all the orchestra sections are easily discernible, get your hands on a copy of Reference Recordings HRx DVD-R 176.4 kHz / 24-bit release of Britten's The Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra, -- Stern/KCS (RR HRx-120). Adjust the volume so that the peak hits 0 dB during the last section; i.e., the molto allegro fugue. During the crescendo pay particular attention to the low end. If the amp doesn't clip, the AB transition doesn't become noticeable, the low end sounds don't become flattened or muddy, or the instruments conflated, the amp will handle anything you might listen to with the HE-6s. In fact, your search for an amp to drive your HE-6s may well be over before you start, room heating in the summer and electric bills aside. At the very least, you'll know what those of us who say "use speaker amps" are talking about.

 

Search this thread for advice on how to sequence turning on/off the signal chain. I start with the source, then preamp, then amp with the HE-6s already plugged into the speaker outputs and turn off in the reverse order. Some plug in their headphones after everything is turned on and unplug them before turning anything off. To minimize risk given this amp's power, I would emphasize as most important that you make sure the gain is set to zero before you turn anything on or off. 

 

And, of course, by all means report back asap :)

 

Sounds like it is time to get a HE-6.  Thanks again!

post #14284 of 14883
There was a Head-Fier using an A23 with the HE-6 at the last Charlotte meet, and when I asked him about it (I didn't attend the meet itself, unfortunately) he wrote back in detail and said that the Parasound was "absolutely freaking phenomenal" with the HE-6. He said it was incredibly revealing of upstream components (to the point that he didn't care for it as much prior to getting an Eximus DP-1 (an upgrade from his previous DAC).

Anecdotal evidence for sure, but I'm guessing your Parasound will sound great with the HE-6. I'm hoping to check out the pairing one day myself! Let us know how it goes, man!
post #14285 of 14883
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

Well, ohhgourami and Silent One, this really borders on lunacy. :biggrin: Its 4 pm Sunday here in India so its 3:30 AM in California ! I like this commitment.

Our hot pursuits were brought to us in part by HiFiMAN, innovating the art of listening through products like the HE-6. 

:beerchug: 

post #14286 of 14883
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

Our hot pursuits were brought to us in part by HiFiMAN, innovating the art of listening through products like the HE-6. 

:beerchug: 

Give me a week, I'm on the bandwagon as well.:smile:

post #14287 of 14883
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Originally Posted by Crashem View Post
 

 

Sounds like it is time to get a HE-6.  Thanks again!


Awaiting impressions! :popcorn:

post #14288 of 14883

New impressions 2nite?! 

:popcorn:

post #14289 of 14883
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post
 


Awaiting impressions! :popcorn:

 

+1

 

FWIW, you could try them right away on your LCD-Xs. Just make sure you start with the volume turned as low as it goes and turn it up slowly. I had a friend who is an Audeze dealer listen to my HE-6s and a pair of his LCD-Xs connected to my MC275 and he was blown away by the all around improvement in performance a good speaker amp makes over the headphone amps he'd been using. Had no idea how much better planars could sound. He now demos the Audeze line using speaker amps. 

post #14290 of 14883
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Originally Posted by rlawli View Post

+1

FWIW, you could try them right away on your LCD-Xs. Just make sure you start with the volume turned as low as it goes and turn it up slowly. I had a friend who is an Audeze dealer listen to my HE-6s and a pair of his LCD-Xs connected to my MC275 and he was blown away by the all around improvement in performance a good speaker amp makes over the headphone amps he'd been using. Had no idea how much better planars could sound. He now demos the Audeze line using speaker amps. 

I am eyeing on yamaha a2000/a3000sl amps.

Do you think its good enough to drive he6? Also audezes?



post #14291 of 14883

Those are some of the nicer vintage amps I've seen...  Are you using the headphone out or the tap on the back?

post #14292 of 14883
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Those are some of the nicer vintage amps I've seen...  Are you using the headphone out or the tap on the back?

yes vintage look but with the newer tech behind, I am slowly moving to speakers as my ears are getting irritated from the headphones.

 

I am planning to use the speaker taps. I believe it's 100w per channel at 8ohm.

 

Really nice looking amp,. :)

post #14293 of 14883
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Originally Posted by rlawli View Post

+1

FWIW, you could try them right away on your LCD-Xs. Just make sure you start with the volume turned as low as it goes and turn it up slowly. I had a friend who is an Audeze dealer listen to my HE-6s and a pair of his LCD-Xs connected to my MC275 and he was blown away by the all around improvement in performance a good speaker amp makes over the headphone amps he'd been using. Had no idea how much better planars could sound. He now demos the Audeze line using speaker amps. 
biggrin.gif That's what we tell people but the science Templars doubletalk it down.
post #14294 of 14883
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Originally Posted by Canadian411 View Post


I am eyeing on yamaha a2000/a3000sl amps.

Do you think its good enough to drive he6? Also audezes?

 

I believe the 2000 is 90 watts @ 8 ohms and the 3000 is 100 watts, both with Yamaha's latest balanced designs. As such they should have plenty of reserves to drive the HE-6s. Driving the HE-6s, they will certainly drive the much more easily satisfied Audezes. I haven't heard either of them but I do have a vintage M-60 and it is still a really good amp which I use in my bedroom with my HE-6s (20 Class A watts @ 8ohms and 170 AB, considerably less costly than either the 2000 or 3000). Yamaha has a long history of making very fine consumer and commercial stereo electronic equipment as well as musical instruments. You may recall they also developed the beryllium speaker technology and subsequently sold it to Focal who now uses it in their best speakers. All Yamaha's top end consumer amplifiers have been well regarded and I'd be surprised if what you are considering was not good enough for your purposes. You do, however, need to go listen to both amps with your HE-6s to adequately answer your question.


Edited by rlawli - 7/29/14 at 2:29pm
post #14295 of 14883

All this reading is extremely dangerous to your wallet :atsmile:  Man oh man, the more I read and with the reply I received from ohhgourami on the HE-6 having more fuller dimension of perceived sound as compared to the HE-560 when all three mods are done!

 

I'm on the fence with my decision since the HE-560 is more or less the latest generation of planar and is pretty decent so far but two things is bothering me - earpad and slightly thin sounding.  Can others chime in who have experienced the HE-560.  Is the HE-6 when driven properly (via speaker amps) really that much more fuller and excel on other areas as well?

 

The HE-560 is however, single sided vs the traditional dual magnetic structure of the 6.  So in terms of percentage, how much more fuller (lush) and larger in dimension is the 6 over the 560?  I love the way my LCD pre-fazor 2.2 does syrupy midrange especially renders female vocals.  It's just that there's no air and a bit muddy at times.

 

Is the HE-6 as lush as the pre-fazor 2.2's but with added technicalities or is it even beyond that?  Can the 560 be transformed close to the HE-6 territory?

 

Thanks in advance, all.

 

By the way, love Silent One's avatar!  Who is that? Hot, Hot!!

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