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post #13696 of 19661
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

And what would said headphone amp be?
I have no idea, I don't look at high end headphone amps. Something with similar output power to the Lyr I guess (the Lyr is one of the few reasonable priced amps that have this kind of output power).
post #13697 of 19661
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Originally Posted by ToddTheMetalGod View Post


I have no idea, I don't look at high end headphone amps. Something with similar output power to the Lyr I guess (the Lyr is one of the few reasonable priced amps that have this kind of output power).


Just make sure you don't get a Lyr. Sounds like absolute garbage with HE-6.

post #13698 of 19661
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post
 


Just make sure you don't get a Lyr. Sounds like absolute garbage with HE-6.

 

There in lies the problem..  

:beerchug: 

 

There's not many high powered headphone amps that can really make the HE-6 sound good.  Up next.....  The Schiit Rag????

post #13699 of 19661
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

There's not many high powered headphone amps that can really make the HE-6 sound good.  Up next.....  The Schiit Rag????

Although I never use the one Schiit amp I currently have, I've been impressed enough by the amps I've heard to be interested in seeing how the Ragnarok turns out for sure.
post #13700 of 19661

I think the Lyr is just a bad amp in general.

 

I think transformer size has a lot to do with how good it sounds.

post #13701 of 19661
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post

I think the Lyr is just a bad amp in general.

I think transformer size has a lot to do with how good it sounds.

Sounded good with my LCD-2.1 once I rolled in good tubes. *shrugs*
post #13702 of 19661
I think I'm probably going to get a used LCD-2r2 when I get some money... or maybe get a FAD Pandora Hope VI to use as a semi-portable. It would be good to use out of my iPod Touch 5G during spares at school.
post #13703 of 19661
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Originally Posted by ToddTheMetalGod View Post

Yeah perhaps it really does just require that much current. Sorry for getting frustrated, I just couldn't imagine a headphone needing that much power. They have about the same sensitivity as a pair of Magnepan planar speakers, so I guess that using a speaker amp probably is the easiest route to go... rather than buying a kilo bucks insanely high current headphone amp.

I personally have measured peaks of up to 20 V  driving the HE-6 (mine are 61 ohm) and we have one member who has reported over 30 V peak to drive his HE-6.  You do the math.... Lots of current, for a headphone.  Nearly every headphone amp will either not have the voltage output required or it won't have the current output required.

post #13704 of 19661
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post
 


Just make sure you don't get a Lyr. Sounds like absolute garbage with HE-6.

 

There in lies the problem..  

:beerchug: 

 

There's not many high powered headphone amps that can really make the HE-6 sound good.  Up next.....  The Schiit Rag????

 

 

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Originally Posted by ToddTheMetalGod View Post

I think I'm probably going to get a used LCD-2r2 when I get some money... or maybe get a FAD Pandora Hope VI to use as a semi-portable. It would be good to use out of my iPod Touch 5G during spares at school.

http://www.audio-gd.com/Pro/SA/SA31/SA31EN.htm

 

Im sorry but I am very hopeful for the Audio GD SA31SE to drive the he-6 well. I hope Im not the first to report back though I am still considering the NFB28 with some speaker amp on the side as well so I am undecided.

(not rich enough for these 2000 dollar amps)

OFF TOPIC:

I dont know what you like but between the lcd2 r2 and FAD VI I would def go for the FAD. I have had both and prefer the FAD by quite the margin. The lcd2 2 sounds closed anyway. Despite all its bass and naturalness its boring to me.

 

IMO the he6 and FAD would make an amazing team(what I have anyway)

post #13705 of 19661
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Originally Posted by punit View Post

Imagine my surprise when a week old Master 9 popped for local sale couple of days back. There are very few Head Fi'ers where I live (UAE), so nothing worthwhile is ever listed for local sale. Although I don't really need another amp, I couldn't let this pass.

So have been A/B'ing the HE 6 on the M9 & Cayin A-70T Tube Integrated amp. The M9 drives them very well, compared to the Cayin it gets you 95% there IMHO (depending on personal tastes some may say an even higher %) . The sound stage is slightly wider on the Cayin but I can live with that. The main reason why the Cayin will still be my go to amp for HE 6 is the bass. Has slightly more body &  better texture, sounds more full. I listen to a lot of EDM , so Bass quantity + quality is a very important criteria for me. Also I prefer the naturalness / smoothness of tubes.

For someone who doesn't want to buy a speaker amp dedicated for the HE 6 & wants to have an amp which can drive HE 6 + quite a lot of other HP's well , I can strongly recommend the M9.

That's essentially the same kind of recommendation I've given for the Taurus MKII - with the 6 it's not all there, but it's very good in its own right too.
Edited by NZtechfreak - 5/30/14 at 8:14pm
post #13706 of 19661
Thanks for the suggestion. I will probably go with the FAD because I want a headphone I can use outside the house. I'm still pretty satisfied with my HE-400s as a fun signature and my Paradigms continue to wow me (maybe a pair of Magnepan or Apogee in the future wink.gif). I don't have money to get everything I want being young and a student, so I have to choose wisely. It seems like the FAD will satisfy my want for a euphoric "HD650" like headphone and give me some versatility with it's closed back and sensitivity.
post #13707 of 19661
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Originally Posted by potterma View Post
 

I personally have measured peaks of up to 20 V  driving the HE-6 (mine are 61 ohm) and we have one member who has reported over 30 V peak to drive his HE-6.  You do the math.... Lots of current, for a headphone.  Nearly every headphone amp will either not have the voltage output required or it won't have the current output required.

Cheers mate...I'm a "61 Ohm-er!"

:beerchug:

post #13708 of 19661
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Originally Posted by potterma View Post

I personally have measured peaks of up to 20 V  driving the HE-6 (mine are 61 ohm) and we have one member who has reported over 30 V peak to drive his HE-6.  You do the math.... Lots of current, for a headphone.  Nearly every headphone amp will either not have the voltage output required or it won't have the current output required.

I can't be bothered working out the math, but from memory of the posts around that time hitting those peaks wanted somewhere in the order of 100w per channel into 8ohm I think.
post #13709 of 19661
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Originally Posted by cradon View Post
 


Wyred 4 Sound mAMPS.

cradon,

 

how are you liking the mAMPS?  I am currently using the EF6 with my HE6 and read with interest your comments on the mAMPS.  After doing some research, I really like the small footprint and possible portability (I can move from room to room with some effort).  I cannot find any reviews with the HE6 other than your recommendation. There are currently a pair on Audiogon for $1600, the same as the EF6 which I can return for full refund.  Where did you get yours?

 

Thanks for your help!

post #13710 of 19661
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Originally Posted by gcannon View Post
 

cradon,

 

how are you liking the mAMPS?  I am currently using the EF6 with my HE6 and read with interest your comments on the mAMPS.  After doing some research, I really like the small footprint and possible portability (I can move from room to room with some effort).  I cannot find any reviews with the HE6 other than your recommendation. There are currently a pair on Audiogon for $1600, the same as the EF6 which I can return for full refund.  Where did you get yours?

 

Thanks for your help!

 

I paid less than that for my SX500 monoblocks... Just looked them up, and although they don't list as many specifications for the mAMPs as they do the SX500s, I'm not sure I have the technical knowledge to determine what would be better for the HE-6. Comparing the two briefly:

 

  • Distortion at 8ohm/10W seems marginally higher on the SX500;
  • Gain is a bit lower on SX500 (27db vs 30db); 
  • Max current is higher on SX500 (35A vs 30A); 
  • Dynamic range is a bit better on the SX500 (115db vs 111db);
  • Output power increases much more on the SX500 vs the mAMP as impedance drops, which I believe indicates a more robust power supply in the SX500 (correct me if I'm mistaken).

 

There's more info comparing the two, but I'm not remotely well-versed in electronics enough to know what they mean. It appears to me (again, I'm very interested in learning more here if what I'm saying is wrong, so please correct me) that the SX500 would be a better fit for the HE-6 due to the lower gain,  higher current, better dynamic range, and (presumably) better power supply. The mAMP seems to have the edge in slightly lower distortion and a smaller physical footprint-- although the SX500 isn't particularly large, and is light enough to carry both amps at once very easily. 

 

Thoughts, guys? 

 

Edit: tried to paste images of the two spec sheets, had difficulties, cursed, and gave up. 'Murica. 

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