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post #13516 of 14887
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

That's because you're a masochist :D

 

Heard the 6s on gourami's Krell in power amp mode, fed by the M7/M1 combo -> Utter crap!... Just kidding, the best sound I've heard, period!

Oh ****.  You got me..  

post #13517 of 14887

Some C/P from the HE-560 thread:

 

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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

 

 

I would say the HE-560 take a step back from the lushness of the HE-500 and 400 and, consequently, are more akin to the HE-4 and HE-6.

 

The 4 and 6 were already similar in that they are clean and mostly linear (the 4s have a U-shaped response by comparison, though).

The 560 fall in the same category: clean and linear vs. lush and romantic (HE-x00).

 

Now, due to the U-shaped response, the HE-4 has somewhat recessed mid-range, a bit like the TH-600 (fuller still). The HE-560's mid-range is fuller and more in line with the rest of the spectrum, like the HE-6.

 

Let's say they fall between the HE-4 and HE-6 in most departments but are closer to the HE-6 in terms of overall technicalities - and even slightly superior to the later at imaging and treble evenness.

 

I, indeed, think it is the natural upgrade of the HE-4 (fast and detailed) with more refinement and a more neutral sound.

 

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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

The HE-6 has better sound-stage depth and overall definition, which manifests by a more detailed sound that brings out more flesh on the bones from the recording, without relying on the know tricks (distortion, a la HE-500 or PM-1).

The HE-6 has the illumination effect that brings out the acoustics in which the instruments were recorded. They are just more resolving. They are also bigger in scale and weight: that's the first thing that strikes people when they first listen to it vs. any other Hifiman.

The 6 are a bit more forward and present. The bass hits harder but I don't know which one is better defined (I'd say the 560 but I would need to compared them side by side in a quieter environment).

 

The HE-560 has smoother treble: present but unoffensive (as in not peaky at all) -> very good job there!

They also imaged better in the center of the stage where the HE-6 tend to be fuzzy on modest setups (much better on ohhgourami's setup than my EF-6).

They were the most linear (which one probably can call neutral).

They are very comfy.

 

Overall the HE-560 feel lighter in its presentation (that's not negative, per se) and a bit smaller in scale (height and depth). They are still very resolving headphones (detail freaks, like the HE-4) and oh so neutral!

And I love the ergonomics (headband and pads).

 

Edit: I would probably give the edge to the HE-560 in terms of speed/agility. The HE-6 is very close but brings weight and definition to the equation.

 
post #13518 of 14887
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HE-560:biggrin:  I'd rather have the hard to drive, driver.

That's because you're a masochist :D

 

Heard the 6s on gourami's Krell in power amp mode, fed by the M7/M1 combo -> Utter crap!... Just kidding, the best sound I've heard, period!

 

Mine should be very close than :happy_face1:

post #13519 of 14887
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Any of you GoldenEars tried the 560, I'd like to know what you thought of it compared to the HE-6  :L3000:

 

I should have a chance soonish.

 

RE: My comments about improvements and being easier to drive earlier - I don't care about that either, but then we're here because we're the self-selected group of people seriously committed to driving the 6. I think an easier to drive headphone with the same sound quality would be a better design and make them more accessible to others.

post #13520 of 14887
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Originally Posted by SilverEars View Post
 

Any of you GoldenEars tried the 560, I'd like to know what you thought of it compared to the HE-6  :L3000:

 

I should have a chance soonish.

 

RE: My comments about improvements and being easier to drive earlier - I don't care about that either, but then we're here because we're the self-selected group of people seriously committed to driving the 6. I think an easier to drive headphone with the same sound quality would be a better design and make them more accessible to others.

 

or motivated, in my case it was Darryl

post #13521 of 14887
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post
 

 

I should have a chance soonish.

 

RE: My comments about improvements and being easier to drive earlier - I don't care about that either, but then we're here because we're the self-selected group of people seriously committed to driving the 6. I think an easier to drive headphone with the same sound quality would be a better design and make them more accessible to others.

 

But not nearly as much fun or as challenging!  Half the fun (for me at least) is finding out just how much overkill is just right!

post #13522 of 14887
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But not nearly as much fun or as challenging!  Half the fun (for me at least) is finding out just how much overkill is just right!

Yeah, we're gluttons for punishment here (sigh)......expensive punishment to boot.  If I had a religious fibre in me I'd get myself a hair shirt and cilice for corporal mortification.  

 

I haven't heard the 560 but the new headband might well be more comfy, they def. ripped that design from Stax AND it looks spit ugly.

post #13523 of 14887
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But not nearly as much fun or as challenging!  Half the fun (for me at least) is finding out just how much overkill is just right!

 

You know what it really is?

 

Once you have the HE-6 there is NO upgrade option in headphones, so HiFiMan kindly gave us the amping conundrum so that we wouldn't have to go through the satisfied boredom of reaching our end-game :)

post #13524 of 14887
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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post
 

 

You know what it really is?

 

Once you have the HE-6 there is NO upgrade option in headphones, so HiFiMan kindly gave us the amping conundrum so that we wouldn't have to go through the satisfied boredom of reaching our end-game :)

I finally got it...throw 1000W mono blocks at it.....then its "Smoke through the Headphones" not "Smoke on the Water" :biggrin: 


Edited by kothganesh - 5/12/14 at 11:09pm
post #13525 of 14887

For some reason I think easier to drive headphone just scale less.  While hard to drive headphones allows to try your best to get the best out of them.  Hell, I'm still having fun trying new stuff.

post #13526 of 14887
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

I finally got it...throw 1000W mono blocks at it.....then its "Smoke through the Headphones" not "Smoke on the Water" :biggrin: 

 

Already tried that. No smoke. I did, however, use an LDR volume control which goes from dead silence to full bore very gradually.

post #13527 of 14887

The thing I like about the HE-6 is it can let me appreciate how good my Copland tube amp sounds. I can listen to Linda Ronstadt,  The Ramones, Horowitz, Al Green, Miles Davis and appreciate how great these artists are.

post #13528 of 14887
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Originally Posted by rlawli View Post
 

 

Already tried that. No smoke. I did, however, use an LDR volume control which goes from dead silence to full bore very gradually.

Wow...gutsy person indeed. By the way, notice you have an F5 clone. Where does one buy/get it? Thanks.

post #13529 of 14887
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Originally Posted by wuwhere View Post
 

The thing I like about the HE-6 is it can let me appreciate how good my Copland tube amp sounds. I can listen to Linda Ronstadt,  The Ramones, Horowitz, Al Green, Miles Davis and appreciate how great these artists are.

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post #13530 of 14887
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post

Wow...gutsy person indeed. By the way, notice you have an F5 clone. Where does one buy/get it? Thanks.

There is one for sale on u.s. audio mart now.
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