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post #13471 of 19433
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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

Since you seem to know the amp very well, I'd say you know how far you can push it. So go right ahead and let us know. I am going to experiment with my old JVC receiver.

OK, ok, I'll take one for the team :beyersmile:  Anyway, at the price I'm getting the beast (>33 kg's of amp) it's essentially a risk free deal should I decide to sell it.  I trust Skylab's opinion and thje SX-1980 is one of his fav. amps but he might like his sound a touch on the warm side for me.  Also, via the headphone out this thing delivers 27 WPC in the HE-6's 50 Ohm.  Enough to make me antsy. 

 

Patience though....flying over to Europe on business in 2 weeks, will get to try it then and post some pics.  Just hope I didn't invite an angry Viking in my house.

post #13472 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

OK, ok, I'll take one for the team :beyersmile:  Anyway, at the price I'm getting the beast (>33 kg's of amp) it's essentially a risk free deal should I decide to sell it.  I trust Skylab's opinion and thje SX-1980 is one of his fav. amps but he might like his sound a touch on the warm side for me.  Also, via the headphone out this thing delivers 27 WPC in the HE-6's 50 Ohm.  Enough to make me antsy. 

 

Patience though....flying over to Europe on business in 2 weeks, will get to try it then and post some pics.  Just hope I didn't invite an angry Viking in my house.

I looked at an Ebay classified and it state:

 

This is one of the best receivers ever made. It's rated at 270 watts per channel (understated!) and loaded with features. It is the ultimate piece for any top of the line audio system.  I am the second owner!

 

It's redonkulous!  :eek: This will burn-in the HE-6 for sure to the point of frying the drivers. 

 

Edit:ok, so headphone out only delivers 27 WPC which is still significant


Edited by SilverEars - 5/10/14 at 7:05am
post #13473 of 19433

I have a decent Speaker System (I would like to think so :rolleyes:), Audio GD Master 1 & 2 + PSB Synchrony One's.

 

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 85

 

 

Up untill a year ago  I used to listen 75% on speakers & 25% on HP's, now the ratio has reversed. The HE 6's are the closest to speaker sound that I have heard on a HP IMHO, I think that's bcos of the Bass , it has so much Body, reminds me of speaker bass.


Edited by punit - 5/10/14 at 6:59am
post #13474 of 19433

No, no , via the headphone out it is 27 WPC (as if that's not enough), quoting from Rob's article on Innerfidelity:

 

"I initially thought that what people were saying about amping the HE-6 was overblown---until I tried them with a VERY powerful vintage stereo receiver, the Pioneer SX-1980 (which delivers about 27 wpc into the 50 ohm impedance of the HE-6 from its headphone out)---and this was for sure the best I had ever heard the HE-6 sound, and remains my reference to this day. (For those unfamiliar, the SX-1980 was Pioneer's flagship stereo receiver in the late 1970's, sold for $2,500 back then, and often fetches more than that today on the used market.) So I became a believer that the HE-6 need a lot of good clean power to really shine."

 

​So my reluctancy to try this is mitigated by the fact that at least one person plugged in a HE-6 and lived (and presumably so did the cans).  We'll see....

post #13475 of 19433

Ok, that makes sense.  I guess the vintage receivers limit the headphone out power.  27WPC is alot still.  You have to limit the headphone out since the volume knob would not have the range if it was 270WPC.:eek:

 

If you guys are power hungry, why not try the Beta 24, it's so powerful, it's capable of powering speakers.

post #13476 of 19433
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Originally Posted by punit View Post
 

I have a decent Speaker System (I would like to think so :rolleyes:), Audio GD Master 1 & 2 + PSB Synchrony One's.

 

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v62), quality = 85

 

 

Up untill a year ago  I used to listen 75% on speakers & 25% on HP's, now the ratio has reversed. The HE 6's are the closest to speaker sound that I have heard on a HP IMHO, I think that's bcos of the Bass , it has so much Body, reminds me of speaker bass.

Awright, Punit stop it. I don't want to break my own resolve of not buying anything this year :biggrin:

post #13477 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

OK, ok, I'll take one for the team :beyersmile:  Anyway, at the price I'm getting the beast (>33 kg's of amp) it's essentially a risk free deal should I decide to sell it.  ...............

You know where I am. And I do expect a home discount :biggrin:

post #13478 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

No, no , via the headphone out it is 27 WPC (as if that's not enough), quoting from Rob's article on Innerfidelity:

 

"I initially thought that what people were saying about amping the HE-6 was overblown---until I tried them with a VERY powerful vintage stereo receiver, the Pioneer SX-1980 (which delivers about 27 wpc into the 50 ohm impedance of the HE-6 from its headphone out)---and this was for sure the best I had ever heard the HE-6 sound, and remains my reference to this day. (For those unfamiliar, the SX-1980 was Pioneer's flagship stereo receiver in the late 1970's, sold for $2,500 back then, and often fetches more than that today on the used market.) So I became a believer that the HE-6 need a lot of good clean power to really shine."

 

​So my reluctancy to try this is mitigated by the fact that at least one person plugged in a HE-6 and lived (and presumably so did the cans).  We'll see....

Rob knows his vintage gear.

The 1980 is the pinnacle of pioneer receivers and if you can get a mint version for a fair price, regardless of what speakers/headphones you have, JUMP ON IT!

However, I am biased as I own a mint 1250 (restored lovingly by Howard at Audio Specialist in Sherman Oaks). Although I have not heard a 1980 (it is a rare piece as not many were made) the 1250 (160w/ch) is still the best I have heard the HE-6.

One caveat with all vintage gear is that it will inevitably require maintenance, so if you do buy it start looking for someone locally who you trust to work on it, as shipping that beast anywhere will cost you a fortune. 

post #13479 of 19433

I heard the 1980 with the HE-6 at a meet in London, It sounded fantastic!! it was far better then the EF6 with the HE-6.

 

The owner of the 1980 and HE-6 connected them via the HE-Adaptor as he was a little weary of directly hooking it up, but I was told it could be directly hooked up as long as you are VERY very careful with the volume dial!.  

post #13480 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

Crap...risk of purchasing used I guess...what with all those maniacs hooking them up to a speaker amp ;) Hope it gets sorted out quickly.

 

In the same vein a question to the bold or foolish on this thread as I'm about to pull a stunt that might not be my wisest move ever:  I've got the possibility to purchase -at a VERY reasonable price- a vintage Pioneer SX-1980 receiver, the amp delivers 270 WPC into 8 Ohms.  That's rms over 20 Hz-20 kHz, btw.  Apparently in those times they didn't emasculate the headphone out so you can just plug 'm in and be really careful with the volume.  The unit's in perfect working order and I sort of know the owner, bit of ocb as far as taking care of his gear goes.

 

Apparently Skylab here loves the HE-6 combo with this receiver.  Any thoughts about the wisdom/foolishness of this little experiment and the sound that might come out of it?

:eek: You actually waited?!

:blink: Seriously...I would have acquired the bad boy and THEN posted.

:veryevil: I'm running my HE-6 off the Sansui G-22000's speaker taps naked without incident...spec'd @ 220wpc into 8 Ohms.


Edited by Silent One - 5/10/14 at 11:45am
post #13481 of 19433

gotta be careful, my old He-6 got fried with just 50wpc, and it wasn't even that loud.

post #13482 of 19433
I've gone through 3 sets. Two were my fault by putting full power on one set by accident. The other I was inserting new ICs and my amps were set to auto instead of off. The other the volumes were delicately attended and one still blew with normal listening levels. So me thinks HE knows it's potential issues and are outstanding to offer their replacement deal.

As to them being a new set, I have doubts unless they are out of returns. I've been told they were referbed. The referb were putting new drivers on an existing frame.

I've been listening to my portable for a while and just put the 6s on. My oh my but we are a lucky group to have such sound from a headphone.
Edited by Happy Camper - 5/10/14 at 3:26pm
post #13483 of 19433

:sigh: I best count my blessings...and listening sessions. Beyond what I do already.

post #13484 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Dubstep Girl View Post
 

gotta be careful, my old He-6 got fried with just 50wpc, and it wasn't even that loud.

 

why it got fried, did you switch on the the Amp while connected or any change was done to your chain and it cause issue?

post #13485 of 19433

I hope not to fry anything except for some okra later today but just to let you guys know that the deal on the Pioneer SX-1980's done. Largely on the strength of recommendations here for the HE-6 pairing and comments read on audiokarma.  It was offered for sale via E-bay (though I know the seller) and it looks like I was the only bidder, got it for just about 1650 USD, transport and taxes in.  

 

It's the 120 V version so i'll have to use a step-down transformer (or change the internal transfo, we'll see).

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pioneer-SX-1980-/221432130930?nma=true&si=RAIpOQRNpgo3ChkDhWg3Uy5Ia7Y%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

Some minor imperfections but it plays nice (check the link in the ad, atrocious music but anyway...).  It's supposed to be ok and revised but I'll ask a tech to take a look and see if the caps etc are good.    If this can't squeeze the last drop out of the HE-6 then I don't know what can.  Will post impressions and compare with my F5 clone once I'm in Europe in a couple of weeks and can try the new toys.

 

Now for the next problem:  explaining to my wife that there's an additional small piece of kit on its way.

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