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post #13456 of 19433

So I got these things in(used) and the left driver went out. I creeped up on the volume through speaker taps then next thing you know... left channel done.

 

 

 

I did pull away with some impressions in the very short time I got to listen

 

I was expecting them to be painful because even the he500 hurt a little bit for some odd reason which is  not the treble like everyone says. Especially since these are "soo bright".  Well this headphone has literally the least offensive, yet fullest treble I have ever heard. It also sounds the least colored IMO of the hifimans I have heard so far. Its  smooth/refined sounding but I can easily hear and feel the instruments energy punch without any effort. There was something I didnt like about the sound but couldnt put my finger on it in time. I think the timbre wasnt convincing or bold enough or something I dont know. But I wish this didnt happen.

 

Too bad the driver went out so fast. I dont know what the freak man. Thats what I get for buying an old pair.

 

Also those stupid tabs on the pads suck royally, as well as how the top of the cups touch/scrape the pivot hinge. whatever though.


Edited by grizzlybeast - 5/10/14 at 2:22am
post #13457 of 19433

You can get it a new pair from Hifiman. You only must paid the shipping from your old headphone + 120 dollars.

post #13458 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Hun7er View Post
 

You can get it a new pair from Hifiman. You only must paid the shipping from your old headphone + 120 dollars.

REALLY?!

even if I dont have the receipt!!

 

I would do that in a heartbeat.

post #13459 of 19433

I tried to email them even before because I was thinking I would need to refurbish them. If someone can confirm this then I will cancel my return and be patient for HifiMan to respond because I emailed them 5 days ago and heard nothing.

post #13460 of 19433
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

REALLY?!

even if I dont have the receipt!!

 

I would do that in a heartbeat.

 

I bought a HE500 which the left driver went out the headband. This unit was used without warranty and not any receipt. I emailed Hifiman and paid around 110 dollars + shipping fee for a new HE500

 

The same with a HE6 which the right driver is died.

 

 

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How about we send you the headband, you replace it yourself?
If you only need the headband (including the half clip), you have to pay 47.5$ (30$ for the headband + 17.5$ for shipping).
But when you replace it, you have to be much careful, not to damage the earcup.
 
If you want to send it back for a replacement, you'd have to pay 110$ (including shipping fee).
You may consider which one to choose.
 
We are going to have weekends here. So I may not reply to you in the next two days

 

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Yes, if your HE-6 is not under warranty, you can send it back for replacement. But you have to pay 110$ (shipping cost included) for replacement.

Edited by Hun7er - 5/10/14 at 2:43am
post #13461 of 19433

awesome there is hope!

post #13462 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post

For classics it depends on the type of music.  To my ears the only instance where the HD-800 really has the edge on the 6 is with large orchestral performances IF they're recorded properly and the mastering engineer knew what he was doing. Fortunately most classical recordings are good.  

To be honest, I'd sell my pair were it not for the above.  They have many deficiencies to me but in this one particular area they excel and annihilate the competition, even the 6, don't know about the electrostats.

+1
Very well said.
Only for that reason (large orchestral performances) I'll keep my HD 800. Also with classics, I enjoy the HE6 / Allnic combi very much, basically. The tonality is very natural - in many cases better than the HD800, especially strings and voices. Soundstage is appropriate with small orchestra and instrument separation is excellent.
post #13463 of 19433
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

So I got these things in(used) and the left driver went out. I creeped up on the volume through speaker taps then next thing you know... left channel done.

 

 

 

 

I did pull away with some impressions in the very short time I got to listen

 

I was expecting them to be painful because even the he500 hurt a little bit for some odd reason which is  not the treble like everyone says. Especially since these are "soo bright".  Well this headphone has literally the least offensive, yet fullest treble I have ever heard. It also sounds the least colored IMO of the hifimans I have heard so far. Its  smooth/refined sounding but I can easily hear and feel the instruments energy punch without any effort. There was something I didnt like about the sound but couldnt put my finger on it in time. I think the timbre wasnt convincing or bold enough or something I dont know. But I wish this didnt happen.

 

Too bad the driver went out so fast. I dont know what the freak man. Thats what I get for buying an old pair.

 

Also those stupid tabs on the pads suck royally, as well as how the top of the cups touch/scrape the pivot hinge. whatever though.

 

 

Bummer.  Yeah, send them back. They'll hook you up.  You can try the HiFiman team person in the HE-560 thread as well.

post #13464 of 19433

Crap...risk of purchasing used I guess...what with all those maniacs hooking them up to a speaker amp ;) Hope it gets sorted out quickly.

 

In the same vein a question to the bold or foolish on this thread as I'm about to pull a stunt that might not be my wisest move ever:  I've got the possibility to purchase -at a VERY reasonable price- a vintage Pioneer SX-1980 receiver, the amp delivers 270 WPC into 8 Ohms.  That's rms over 20 Hz-20 kHz, btw.  Apparently in those times they didn't emasculate the headphone out so you can just plug 'm in and be really careful with the volume.  The unit's in perfect working order and I sort of know the owner, bit of ocb as far as taking care of his gear goes.

 

Apparently Skylab here loves the HE-6 combo with this receiver.  Any thoughts about the wisdom/foolishness of this little experiment and the sound that might come out of it?

post #13465 of 19433
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Originally Posted by kensonic View Post


+1
Very well said.
Only for that reason (large orchestral performances) I'll keep my HD 800. Also with classics, I enjoy the HE6 / Allnic combi very much, basically. The tonality is very natural - in many cases better than the HD800, especially strings and voices. Soundstage is appropriate with small orchestra and instrument separation is excellent.

+1, I like vocals, acoustics and piano(strings), horn textures, and they all sound natural to me.  These do well with classical and jazz.  As long as you give a quality, it will spit it out.  And grill mod probably helps out with the sound stage which I haven't tried yet.

 

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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

Apparently Skylab here loves the HE-6 combo with this receiver.  Any thoughts about the wisdom/foolishness of this little experiment and the sound that might come out of it?

Yes, I read that too under vintage amp thread.  I was thinking it makes sense for planars such as HE-6 since the impedance is flat I was guessing that it's not so finicky with the type of amp, dunno though as I haven't thrown it many types of amps except the silly O2.  The reason why I wanted to try vintage amps or as we call them receivers is that they have lots more power than a typical headphone amp and you can get some great deals on vintage amps(well you used to before hipsters started getting into them. lol.)

 

I think the amp Skylab likes is the ridiculously high wattage one(of course a speaker amp, but pretty powerful one) which the value has skyrocketed for a vintage amp, forget the model.


Edited by SilverEars - 5/10/14 at 4:09am
post #13466 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

Crap...risk of purchasing used I guess...what with all those maniacs hooking them up to a speaker amp ;) Hope it gets sorted out quickly.

 

In the same vein a question to the bold or foolish on this thread as I'm about to pull a stunt that might not be my wisest move ever:  I've got the possibility to purchase -at a VERY reasonable price- a vintage Pioneer SX-1980 receiver, the amp delivers 270 WPC into 8 Ohms.  That's rms over 20 Hz-20 kHz, btw.  Apparently in those times they didn't emasculate the headphone out so you can just plug 'm in and be really careful with the volume.  The unit's in perfect working order and I sort of know the owner, bit of ocb as far as taking care of his gear goes.

 

Apparently Skylab here loves the HE-6 combo with this receiver.  Any thoughts about the wisdom/foolishness of this little experiment and the sound that might come out of it?

Since you seem to know the amp very well, I'd say you know how far you can push it. So go right ahead and let us know. I am going to experiment with my old JVC receiver.

post #13467 of 19433
Xenophone, just for curiosity: what about your F5 you so much expect? I have one and I'm very very happy.
post #13468 of 19433
Let me put it this way and remain diplomatic: the F5 order via the site hit a snag. Meaning: no F5 and still working to get my cash back. I'll leave it at that for now but a word of advice ifor anyone wishing to have gear made: regardless of the builders reputation, protect yourself by using paypal for commercial transactions ( look at the fee as an insurance premuim), make damn sure everything's wrapped up within a month and don't be shy about filing a claim if things look like they're heading south. And run far and hard if there's any negative comment about previous transactions. But I found a clone in Germany via a local diy forum and purchased that one, it's waiting for me in Europe, am in India now unti, end of this month.
I'll let you know, very curious about it.
post #13469 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post

Let me put it this way and remain diplomatic: the F5 order via the site hit a snag. Meaning: no F5 and still working to get my cash back. I'll leave it at that for now but a word of advice ifor anyone wishing to have gear made: regardless of the builders reputation, protect yourself by using paypal for commercial transactions ( look at the fee as an insurance premuim), make damn sure everything's wrapped up within a month and don't be shy about filing a claim if things look like they're heading south. And run far and hard if there's any negative comment about previous transactions. But I found a clone in Germany via a local diy forum and purchased that one, it's waiting for me in Europe, am in India now unti, end of this month.
I'll let you know, very curious about it.


Yes, It takes great effort to  be diplomatic when someones takes your money & disappears  & does not even bother with the simple courtesy of a reply.

post #13470 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

Not saying it's forgiving either...I call it realistic.  It's 'forgiving' compared to cans like the HD-800 that resolve/accentuate microdetail to an extreme extent (too much of a good thing for my tastes).  But I'd call the HD-800 over the top and unrealistic rather than the HE-6 forgiving.  With the 800 I sometimes get the feeling that they detect otherwise inaudible stuff, then just bring it down to an audible level and throw it in the mix so it can -mostly- be a nuisance.  Don't get me wrong, I admire their technicality but it gets tiresome with imperfect source material.  In the HifiMans, I'd call the 500 forgiving, don't know about the new 560.

 

IMHO HD800's are less forgiving because they decay faster and sound thinner as a result - technically this is a good thing but musically it is not always so good.  Another factor may be that HE-6 tend to sound a little sleepy when under-amplified - I consider my setup not to have adequate power for the HE-6 as they clipped on some material.  On that setup they were lacking in microdynamic delicacy and macrodynamic contrast, something I am assured a proper speaker amp will fix.


Thing is though, I was happy with my setup when I had HE-6 even though it was lacking in technicalities.  

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When I bought the HD800 all I could think is how to fix the flaws in my system the headphones were pointing out.  At this point I think I'm 99% the way there and my system sounds musical again.  I think this is one of the strengths of HD800 - they can allow you to hone in on flaws in your system and better evaluate performance.  Oh, that and they can be powered by headphone amplifiers:biggrin:

 

I'm hardly a soundstage craving person, for me vegan pad HE-6 had a huge soundstage, Imaging I can't recall - its been a year or two.  What I did learn with pad rolling is that you are actually altering the dampening of the driver.  In terms of accuracy I felt the hifiman velours were excellent, the Audeze vegan pads staged larger and projected forward more, but I felt underdamped a little.  Audeze leather overdamped, the headphones lost the bass response and the midrange and treble decayed quickly and felt compressed.  SilentOne hit the nail no the head that there typically is a compromise.  The Hifiman pleathers were awful IMO, midbass boost and massive treble peak (Stax 007 pads did this too).  It's a damping thing.

 

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On that I feel that soundstage can be a compromise as well.  Too large and the sound is diffuse and lacks density and presence.  HD800 can run the risk of going here.  This is why I am not scared to modify my pair even if it reduces perceived soundstage a little.  My main issue is the treble peak, so I fix that with a simple mod and use the best cable I can build.  But I am drifting way off topic here...
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