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post #13426 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post
 

I say it's a tossup between the HD800. Really no surprises on the comparison though... The Senn has better staging and imaging and overall microdetail, while i feel the HE-6 has better midrange presence and much more body in the low end.

 

The HD800 is pickier with amping though, moreso than the HE-6. The HD800 can change character depending on the amp used; the HE-6 scales up but more or less retains it's character.

This makes sense based on the disgusting impedance graph.  I'm thinking that monster needs an amp that compensates for the nasty impedance hump.  It's not flat like HE-6.  

post #13427 of 19433

Can anybody recommend a good DAC to add to my HE-6 AND EF-6 that works well with this combo?

 

I was kindly recommended the hegel hd 25 by another head-fier, but hegel has no UK distributor or authorized vendors :(

post #13428 of 19433
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post
 


I should really head to bed, but I don't want to take these cans off! First world problems!

 

The mids seem to have a lot more focus with these grills. It's been something I've wanted for awhile.

Great to hear! At this writing I don't have the time or money for new grills. But late tonight I'm simply gonna take them bad boys off and fire 'em up! Funny thing is I could have done this while messing around with the other mods but never thought about it. :rolleyes:

 

 

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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

I know the feeling, except that it's afternoon here now.  But as I sleep very little sitting in my office working from 3:30 AM on while listening to music and taking a break at dawn to watch the sun rise with a  strong coffee and a cigarette (quit a month back) is part of my routine.

On dropping the cancer stix...thumbsup.gif

 

 

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Originally Posted by wewewho77 View Post

Does the hardwiring improve anything?

I haven't reached any hard conclusions yet. Admittedly too much time has elapsed since my last session before shipping them off; have listened very little since. Something has changed, though. I feel it's neither an improvement or substantial...will need more time. More sideways and a preference and could be an improvement or not depending on both what one has and what they like. It's akin to shifting resonances around regarding your gears and what they're sitting on.

 

If I had to go out on a limb - and I would for Pecans & Walnuts :tongue_smile: - I'd say there's a subtle change in the mid-range with respect to Guitars, Synths, Bass, Percussion, dimension and dynamics:

- Guitars > their notes seem a bit more apparent though not necessarily any louder. A little more info is revealed.

 

- Synths > same as above, a bit more revealing with info.

 

- Bass > still yum-o...but seems to have slightly reduced dynamics. Grip is retained but there's a slight (perceived) reduction of amplitude. 

 

"Eject!" "Eject!" I'm leaving my original thoughts behind and simply wrap-it-up with a perceived slight reduction of slam/dynamics and this impacts (no pun intended) what I'm experiencing with Bass & Percussion, though their other qualities remain intact. It's as if some chairs on stage where moved - a few of 'em forward, a few of 'em backwards. Maybe a flattening of the presentation? I certainly need more time with the cans and allow the rhythms of daily life to take hold and settle. My early impressions could easily change.

 

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Originally Posted by punit View Post

I am surprised that you two HE-6 Supremus are so late to the Open Grill mod party. Better late then never :beerchug: 

I'm surprised you're not aware how long it took me to even make the purchase. :p This grill mod is on track and on time...

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post
 
biggrin.gif So we're on the same short bus.

You ever fly in to LAX and I'll fire up the rig upon your departure and get the tubes right nice and toasty. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post
 
 

 

Not necessarily. I wider soundstage could be closer, putting the instruments/musicians at greater angles to the sides.

 

 

Dude, I told you to do the grills MONTHS ago :tongue: 

Top - this has been my experience with tube rolling

Bottom - can't wait to join the grillin' party tonight!

post #13429 of 19433
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post
 

Can anybody recommend a good DAC to add to my HE-6 AND EF-6 that works well with this combo?

 

I was kindly recommended the hegel hd 25 by another head-fier, but hegel has no UK distributor or authorized vendors :(

What's your budget? What's your transport?

 

Chord Hugo

Audio-gd Master 7

Ayre QB-9 DSD

PS-Audio PWD-II

 

are the first that come to mind in the 2k-3k segment.

post #13430 of 19433

I got a quad set of NOS Svetlana Winged C KT88 for my Cayin couple of days back. These have greater soundstage width ,depth & seperation, better bass texture , smoother & more extended highs than my current EH tubes. Combined with the  grill mod , the HE 6 sounds so open & sweet, yet intimate as the sound stage is not too wide. Can't stop smiling :smile: 

 

Also replaced the stock rectifier with a Philips GZ34 Metal base.

 

Can't help wondering now what will the king of KT88's, the GEC sound like. Gotta start saving up for a quad set of NOS GEC KT88 now :evil:.


Edited by punit - 5/8/14 at 2:16pm
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I think you're heading in the right direction with the GECs. The one Cayin I heard was not tube rolled and I didn't care for it. Obviously tubes make the amp but some of these tube sets cost more than the amp. devil_face.gif
post #13432 of 19433
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Originally Posted by punit View Post

I am surprised that you two HE-6 Supremus are so late to the Open Grill mod party. Better late then never :beerchug: 

I was pretty early to the Vegan pads and felt mod though! And I was 50% there when I removed the cotton stuffing.

post #13433 of 19433
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Originally Posted by cb3723 View Post
 

Can anybody recommend a good DAC to add to my HE-6 AND EF-6 that works well with this combo?

 

I was kindly recommended the hegel hd 25 by another head-fier, but hegel has no UK distributor or authorized vendors :(

I have been using a AK240 as a source/DAC.  I just got an OPPO HA-1 DAC/Amp that might be a replacement for the EF-6.

post #13434 of 19433
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Originally Posted by efeist View Post
 

I have been using a AK240 as a source/DAC.  I just got an OPPO HA-1 DAC/Amp that might be a replacement for the EF-6.

 

 

Using the HA-1 as an amp through the single-ended out? That's about 400mW rated and 3W maximum into 50ohms from what I can see in Oppo's specs... how's that working out?

I'm looking for an amp for my HE-6, watching the schiit ragnarok and considering the auralic taurus or audio-gd master9 as well, although many more people seem to prefer speaker amps... I do want something that can (relatively) easily be bought new though.

post #13435 of 19433
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Originally Posted by RazielZ View Post
 

 

Using the HA-1 as an amp through the single-ended out? That's about 400mW rated and 3W maximum into 50ohms from what I can see in Oppo's specs... how's that working out?

I'm looking for an amp for my HE-6, watching the schiit ragnarok and considering the auralic taurus or audio-gd master9 as well, although many more people seem to prefer speaker amps... I do want something that can (relatively) easily be bought new though.

Just tried it out using the balanced output into stock HE-6 cable.  Source is a Macbook Pro running Windows 8.1 and JRiver Media Center 19.  The OPPO drives them loud enough for my taste, which is pretty loud.  Not as loud as my EF-6 amp though.  Sound is fantastic, much better that the EF-6 and you get a DAC/pre-amp/headphone amp all in one.

post #13436 of 19433

I guess I'm the only one that feels the HD800s does not image better than the HE-6 or that the HD800 is as amp picky as lead to believe? (amp picky myth).

 

In the HD800 thread it's lots of low fi (M-Stage), mid-fi (V200) and Hi-fi (DNA Stratus, EC - anything) rigs that's said to work very well with the HD800s. Some of these low fi and mid fi rigs end game rigs for some.

 

The HE-6 does not share that kind of flexibility.

 

The imaging on the HD800 seems off to me.  Like instruments are too far off or to far away when they should be "right there"  IMO the HE-6 does a better job.  

 

Now soundstage is clearly a win for the HD800.

post #13437 of 19433

Just popped off the Black wire screens to my HE-6. At first glance it would seem simply removing the fabric off the back would open up things on the original mesh screen, despite having smaller holes. Note, I did not suggest by how much or that I even tried it yet - my precious greenies are warming up still. 

 

Isotek is doin' its thang at the moment but within the hour, Abraham Laboriel, Al Jarreau, Astrud Gilberto, Art Tatum and more from the "A's..." I'll be listening briefly with no screens at all and will address perforated prefs maybe over the weekend or next week.


Edited by Silent One - 5/8/14 at 9:05pm
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:popcorn:

post #13439 of 19433
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post
 

:popcorn:

:sigh: Six samples in sixty minutes and...this could take a while. Removing the grills produced results that giveth and taketh away at the same time. Because it's so easily reversible, I'll need an extended run of at least a week. Or at least when I'm in the mood. 

 

At this writing I'm neither buying or selling "with" or "without"...stay tuned.


Edited by Silent One - 5/8/14 at 10:35pm
post #13440 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

:sigh: Removing the grills produced results that giveth and taketh away at the same time. Because it's so easily reversible, I'll need an extended run of at least a week. Or at least when 

 

My thoughts exactly.  

 

:beerchug:

 

That's why I'm strongly considering two pair. :biggrin:

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