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Krell KAV-400xi arrived, even lossy is sounding special with it, much smoother than Emo UPA-200 which was bright. 

 

I wanted to do A/B comparison between Emo and Krell, now it seems like.... I will let go Emo without even bothering powering it on.

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Another KAV-400xi in this thread? What's so special about it? I've seen a used one floating around for $1600. Makes me wonder if I should jump on it.

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Another KAV-400xi in this thread? What's so special about it? I've seen a used one floating around for $1600. Makes me wonder if I should jump on it.

 

 

The sheer power in the bass, effortless delivery, and unaggressive presentation makes KAV-400xi special, I paid almost same price and not regretting at all. You should not go wrong with it.

 

Before this I had Lyr (with HD-650) and Emo UPA-200 they sound flat when compared to Krell, not even half as resolving. But do not take only my word for it, I have experienced only these three amps.

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Regarding the Krell, are you guys using any resistors between the speaker outs and your cans? How much play do you have with the volume?

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@musicman59 Thanks for the response. I need to give the HE-6 a try.
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I played a wide variety of tracks, as night gave way to morning. But just before the 8 hour session went into the books, one artist stood out like a finger with un-licked cookie dough. I played some vintage Sade and her vocals were:

 

:eek: Haunting

:wink: Sweet

:tongue_smile: Delicious

 

I rarely have back-to-back sessions but tonight I gotta go in for a little bit more! 

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Regarding the Krell, are you guys using any resistors between the speaker outs and your cans? How much play do you have with the volume?

 

@ohhgourami is using resistors, seems like I do not need one as I am not experiencing noise floor. Volume for around 75 db, I am using75 (out of 100) on PWD and 35 (out of 150) on Krell.

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Ok guys, this is what I mean by natural sounding.  Listening to this track, especially the whistling(it sounds really natural), and of course the vocals which HE-6 does well as long as the recording emphasizes it.  Lots of you are saying HE-6 is forgiving, but I've been noticing some really terrible recordings, so I would have to disagree.  But, yeah, there are lots of recording like this one that I think HE-6 would excel in outputting.

 

 


Edited by SilverEars - 5/6/14 at 8:16pm
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Enjoyed the MV.

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Lots of you are saying HE-6 is forgiving, but I've been noticing some really terrible recordings, so I would have to disagree.  

 

Interesting, I don't find it particularly forgiving at all either.

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@ohhgourami is using resistors, seems like I do not need one as I am not experiencing noise floor. Volume for around 75 db, I am using75 (out of 100) on PWD and 35 (out of 150) on Krell.


Using 100 and 10 ohm resistors here. I'm surprised you don't hear the noise floor without resistors. Out of my NFB-7.32 (5V output), I have to set the Krell at 2-3 out of 150. Any higher than that was too loud for me so I'm guessing you listen at a higher volume than me which lets the music mask the noise floor. With music stopped, it should be really obvious.

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Not saying it's forgiving either...I call it realistic.  It's 'forgiving' compared to cans like the HD-800 that resolve/accentuate microdetail to an extreme extent (too much of a good thing for my tastes).  But I'd call the HD-800 over the top and unrealistic rather than the HE-6 forgiving.  With the 800 I sometimes get the feeling that they detect otherwise inaudible stuff, then just bring it down to an audible level and throw it in the mix so it can -mostly- be a nuisance.  Don't get me wrong, I admire their technicality but it gets tiresome with imperfect source material.  In the HifiMans, I'd call the 500 forgiving, don't know about the new 560.

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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post
 

Not saying it's forgiving either...I call it realistic.  It's 'forgiving' compared to cans like the HD-800 that resolve/accentuate microdetail to an extreme extent (too much of a good thing for my tastes).  But I'd call the HD-800 over the top and unrealistic rather than the HE-6 forgiving.  With the 800 I sometimes get the feeling that they detect otherwise inaudible stuff, then just bring it down to an audible level and throw it in the mix so it can -mostly- be a nuisance.  Don't get me wrong, I admire their technicality but it gets tiresome with imperfect source material.  In the HifiMans, I'd call the 500 forgiving, don't know about the new 560.

I don't own the 800, so I cannot compare to the HE-6, but HE-6 does something similar when it comes to certain details.  I notice these sounds are detached from others, or separated( I think this is what we refer to as separation?).  I'm used to using iems so there isn't such a distinct separation to the sound, I perceive it together so I don't lose focus of the sound to a particular detail.  I feel that HE-6's separation cause me to notice certain sounds because of this reason.  I'm thinking 800 more so like that, and also the tonality is less natural?

 

So, I initially thought HE-6 was revealing more details, but in fact it makes it more noticeable because of the way the separation is done.


Edited by SilverEars - 5/6/14 at 9:55pm
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@ohhgourami is using resistors, seems like I do not need one as I am not experiencing noise floor. Volume for around 75 db, I am using75 (out of 100) on PWD and 35 (out of 150) on Krell.


Using 100 and 10 ohm resistors here. I'm surprised you don't hear the noise floor without resistors. Out of my NFB-7.32 (5V output), I have to set the Krell at 2-3 out of 150. Any higher than that was too loud for me so I'm guessing you listen at a higher volume than me which lets the music mask the noise floor. With music stopped, it should be really obvious.

 

Honestly I am not getting any noise floor with PWD connected, did try with Schiit Bifrost (unbalanced) for a brief period I can hear noise with it, but with PWD it is dead salient. Vol level I am using is also not high should be around 75 db, with this song if exists noise floor should be evident, I am only enjoying those piano notes

 

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Hmmm, I don't want to say the HD-800 is unrealistic or unnatural.  Just..too..much.  Flawed analogy:

 

He-500:  The looks of the girl you meet in the bar at 10 PM after 1 scotch and in light that's a bit subdued.

 

HE-6: Same girl next morning in the bright light of day when you wake up next to her.

 

HD-800:  Same as before but with your wife hammering on the door of your hotel room.

 

I know...childish...but it's the most visual way I can depict the differences, both 3 present 'a' reality.


Edited by Xenophon - 5/6/14 at 10:08pm
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