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Originally Posted by kothganesh View Post
 

Punit:

 

where did you get your Cayin/Spark ? Man, you do have the PTMM syndrome.:biggrin:


There is a Cayin dealer here, but I bought mine used, from the classifieds a couple of years back for my bedroom speaker system. If someone had told me then that I will be using them to drive HP's instead of speakers I would have replied can I have some of what you are smoking :o2smile: 


Edited by punit - 5/2/14 at 10:06am
post #13187 of 14887
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Originally Posted by Velomane View Post
 

Back to the monos for a second. I'd need a preamplifier to use them, correct? Also, what is your preference: the Rotel monos, or a Krell S-300i integrated amp?

 

I looked into the S-300i, read a few less-than-stellar reviews and ultimately passed on it. YMMV, natch.

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Originally Posted by Theogenes View Post

I looked into the S-300i, read a few less-than-stellar reviews and ultimately passed on it. YMMV, natch.
I've read that it sounds a lot better with a separate pre, although that guy did use a KCT...
post #13189 of 14887
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Originally Posted by Velomane View Post

Back to the monos for a second. I'd need a preamplifier to use them, correct? Also, what is your preference: the Rotel monos, or a Krell S-300i integrated amp?
I'd go with the Krell too. Better power supply. And yes you will need a means to control volume. Today's DACs have a digital volume control and some have an analog volume control as well. A pre amp is another route. I've used a passive volume control between my DAC and amps.
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That particular Krell is an integrated amp.  It's bigger brother the S-550i has got better reviews thus far.

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

That particular Krell is an integrated amp.  It's bigger brother the S-550i has got better reviews thus far.
Then that takes care of that. No need for other components.

Darryl, Mark said the Ayre lineup is better than the Simgear. May need to visit.
Edited by Happy Camper - 5/2/14 at 12:24pm
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So after pulling the trigger and doing research I am concerned about a few things:

 

1. center image 

2. bass rumble/qty

 

I will be driving them with speaker taps so I am not worried about power but the above problems sometimes seem like they are coming from people who are barely giving them enough power. Can anyone confirm that?

 

I actually had a bottlehead being built for an hd650 but changed my mind on the 650 and pulled the trigger here on the he-6 since I have a few vintage receivers to power them. I am suspecting I made a good choice regardless of how bad I wanted to hear the hype of the bottlehead crack/speedball which may eventually go up forsale before I get to really enjoy it. 

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No luck for HD-650. Day and night difference. Have both 650 and 6 being driven by speaker amps (super-charged McCormack + Firstwatt F5). Sixs are in a different league, one of their own. Imagine a K701 turbo'ed in all musical aspects or a very expensive hiend speaker in a perfectly-treated room driven by sota amps!

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Depends on the quality of your amp.  On a quality amp, the bass is not going to rumble like the LCDs it will be much more controlled and still able to go as deep.  

 

I've found my amp and DAC play a big part in the staging.  IMO on a good rig the HE-6 imaging is much more believable compared to the HD800s.  More real, the HD800s can seem distant at times thus making the imaging off.  All music does not benefit for that massive soundstage the HD800s has.  

 

Back to the bass..  The bass quality is great on the HE-6 coning off an amp that can take control of the drivers with authority.  Deep and tight, not deep and wooly. 

 

YMMV of course.

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Originally Posted by StryGR View Post
 

No luck for HD-650. Day and night difference. Have both 650 and 6 being driven by speaker amps (super-charged McCormack + Firstwatt F5). Sixs are in a different league, one of their own. Imagine a K701 turbo'ed in all musical aspects or a very expensive hiend speaker in a perfectly-treated room driven by sota amps!

 

I figured so but the crack/speedball would match better with the hd650 than speaker taps. I had it on speaker taps already and would put the he500 from a 2w amp above it as well. 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Depends on the quality of your amp.  On a quality amp, the bass is not going to rumble like the LCDs it will be much more controlled and still able to go as deep.  

 

I've found my amp and DAC play a big part in the staging.  IMO on a good rig the HE-6 imaging is much more believable compared to the HD800s.  More real, the HD800s can seem distant at times thus making the imaging off.  All music does not benefit for that massive soundstage the HD800s has.  

 

Back to the bass..  The bass quality is great on the HE-6 coning off an amp that can take control of the drivers with authority.  Deep and tight, not deep and wooly. 

 

YMMV of course.

The receiver I have now I prefer to the emotiva I had by a fair margin. 

The dilemma for me is in my understanding of power and out put.

 

The he-6 is 50 ohms well two of my receivers (The one I like with the black background and smooth detailed soundstage/but almost dark) is only 25W at 8ohms

and the other with the really good soundstage and smooth sound is 50 W per channel or 35 into 8ohms.

 

How does that translate into 50 ohms? do I need to look for a more powerful amp. I will do so in a heartbeat. I mistakenly assumed I had more than enough power.

 

Thanks again!

post #13196 of 14887

30W @ 8 ohm is enough to fully (99%) exploit 6s.

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so 35 w into 8 ohms means I have a little room left no the dial

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It is translated to approx. 4.5 W @ HE-6's  nominal impedance.

post #13199 of 14887
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post

so 35 w into 8 ohms means I have a little room left no the dial
That depends on the gain. Power!=volume
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Originally Posted by grizzlybeast View Post
 

so 35 w into 8 ohms means I have a little room left no the dial

 

Nope.  not at all.  If your amp has really low gain then you may have to turn the dial way up.  Take a look at the specs on the First Watt Amps:  http://www.firstwatt.com/prod.html  The F1J does a mighty fine job at driving the HE-6..


Edited by preproman - 5/2/14 at 1:11pm
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