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post #12991 of 19437
You'll never know unless you try them beerchug.gif
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You have to try it for your own curiosity. I'm guessing the Rotel will perform better but that's just a guess not having heard your Cayin.
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Originally Posted by punit View Post
 

I have the Cayin A-70T Integrated / Power Tube  amp in my upstairs bedroom system. It has a line in to the power amp section (which bypasses the tube pre) so I can also use it with the Master 1 pre :

 

http://www.cayinusa.com/Product_Name.asp?Category=26:56:40&types=1

 

Would it be worth while to connect the HE 6 to this instead of  the Rotel ? It weighs nearly 60 pounds & will be a pain to drag it downstairs & have to undo all the current speaker wiring. Plus I have to carry it upstairs again & redo all the cabling if it does not sound any better. I think majority of the opinion on this thread is that solid state work's better with the HE-6 rather than tubes, hence am a bit reluctant to invest all the time & effort. But if the "elders " on this thread think the Cayin might sound better than the Rotel then will give it a try.

 

So do you guys think I should go through all the effort & try the Cayin or just sit back & enjoy the Rotel ?

i would not claim to be an elder but i think the he-6 sounds quite good with tubes.  i use a hybrid power amp and two tube amps and i think the he-6 is true to what you hear from those amps on speakers.  if you like the amp on speakers and it has enough power (which it does), you should like it on the he-6. whether you like it better is personal taste, but i would not assume that any solid state is better than any tube on the he-6.  I could not tell from the manual whether the cayin is transformer coupled, so you may need a resistor to protect the amp.  

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So I finally got my Double Helix cable today & hooked the HE-6 up directly to the speaker taps of the Rotel RB 1080 power amp controlled by Audio GD Master 1 pre. I get the speaker amp thing now :L3000:, was using Meier Classic & WA22 before.

 

For lack of a better analogy, it is like i was watching a movie on my iMac screen before & am watching it on a 50 inch LED now. The iMac screen was actually not bad but can't go back now.

 

http://www.rotel.com/NA/products/ProductDetails.htm?Id=8&Tab=1&Pic=1

 

Would be grateful if someone can read the Rotel's specs & let me know how much power is it capable of pushing into the HE-6.

 

Some pics of the amps internals :

 

http://forum.quebecaudio.com/index.php?showtopic=23839

That is 32 watts/ch into the HE-6 50 ohms and 83db efficiency.

IMO is too much and you need to be careful with your volume knob. One time I crossed PMs with Dr. Fang and he recommended to use the adapter to attenuate the signal when amplifiers with 100 watts/ch in 8 ohms or more were used.

Some people disagree with that and are running them with those powerful amplifiers. Nothing will happen a long as you are careful with the volume.

I think the HE-6 can take up to abut 14 watts/ch in 50 ohms or so.

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That is 32 watts/ch into the HE-6 50 ohms and 83db efficiency.

IMO is too much and you need to be careful with your volume knob.

I have a very good pre with 99 step volume control. I can listen comfortably at around volume of 25 & its not a rotating volume control but an Up / Down button click one, so the changes are very precise & controlled, One cannot turn the volume  up too high by mistake by an accidental strong twist on the dial.


Edited by punit - 4/15/14 at 9:54am
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Originally Posted by musicman59 View Post
 

That is 32 watts/ch into the HE-6 50 ohms and 83db efficiency.

IMO is too much and you need to be careful with your volume knob.

I have a very good pre with 99 step volume control. I can listen comfortably at around volume of 25 & its not a rotating volume control but an Up / Down button click one, so the changes are very precise & controlled, One cannot turn the volume  up too high by mistake by an accidental strong twist on the dial.

 

It is not only about the vol control, but also about ensuring there is no relay mute (pop when we turns on) does not exists in the chain. Especially when tube is involved in the chain...when on.... if tubes are touched then HE-6 will blow-up.

 

I do not have tubes in my chain, if I change anything in my chain even an wire then normally I use old HD-201 to check if there are any relay mute before I pug in HE-6 


Edited by musicinmymind - 4/15/14 at 10:29am
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I usually turn on my tube mono blocks or big solid state block first and then plug in the cans at volume zero. Moments later.

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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

I usually turn on my tube mono blocks or big solid state block first and then plug in the cans at volume zero. Moments later.

 

Similar here, since I use an adapter into the 4-pin XLR I connect that to speaker amps, power them up, then plug in the HE-6 at zero volume (reverse order for powering down basically). 

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Originally Posted by NZtechfreak View Post
 

 

Similar here, since I use an adapter into the 4-pin XLR I connect that to speaker amps, power them up, then plug in the HE-6 at zero volume (reverse order for powering down basically). 

 

Same here and the safest way. 

post #13000 of 19437

I view all this with a ceremonial eye rather than a hassle, no hurry no worry. :wink:

post #13001 of 19437

I turn on my source first (no preamp) then my tube speaker amp. I don't even mute nor turn down the volume first.

On turn off, I do the reverse. No pop from the amp at all.

post #13002 of 19437
How I get this: worked fine with the Emotiva


To go into this:

Keeps falling off
Was so looking forward to this frown.gif
post #13003 of 19437
Ok, got it smily_headphones1.gif
post #13004 of 19437

On>

Power Conditioners

Music Server

DAC

Pre-Amp

TT

Amps

 

Off>

In reverse order...

post #13005 of 19437

When I turn off my amp, I let the music continue playing until its gone from my HP before I turn off my source. My thinking is this helps drain the power caps of charge but what do I know.

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