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post #12286 of 15253
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post
 


That's like a speaker amplifier. Maybe I should just plug the HE-6 to my receiver's speaker output lol.

Yeah. Most people with these use speaker amps of some sort.

post #12287 of 15253
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post
 


That's like a speaker amplifier. Maybe I should just plug the HE-6 to my receiver's speaker output lol.


Yup, that's what most of us are doing.

 

post #12288 of 15253
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That's like a speaker amplifier. Maybe I should just plug the HE-6 to my receiver's speaker output lol.

Exactly like a speaker amplifier.

If you were not happy with the LCD-XC out of your iphone, stay away from the HE-6. Anyone who does not believe that these need gobs of power to sound their best has not heard them anywhere near their best. This is a perfect example where measurements don't mean s@%t.

Having said that I very much enjoy them from the Hifi-m8, and I own several vintage amps in excess of 100w/ch, but that is an exception.

I also own an O2, other than making them produce sound at loud volumes it does not get anywhere near their potential. In fact if I only heard them from the O2 I probably would say they are crap headphones, bright, no bass, no soundstage.....etc. 

Unless you are planning to amplify them correctly you are better off getting something else.

post #12289 of 15253
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Exactly like a speaker amplifier.

If you were not happy with the LCD-XC out of your iphone, stay away from the HE-6. Anyone who does not believe that these need gobs of power to sound their best has not heard them anywhere near their best. This is a perfect example where measurements don't mean s@%t.

Having said that I very much enjoy them from the Hifi-m8, and I own several vintage amps in excess of 100w/ch, but that is an exception.

I also own an O2, other than making them produce sound at loud volumes it does not get anywhere near their potential. In fact if I only heard them from the O2 I probably would say they are crap headphones, bright, no bass, no soundstage.....etc. 

Unless you are planning to amplify them correctly you are better off getting something else.

 

Actually the XC is designed to be driven by Iphones, see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7cwlwUJaBk (Audeze spokesman confirming) and it didn't sound notably better when connected to my receiver or the objective 2. Also, innerfidelity claims the XC can be driven to 90db with a mere 0.39mW of power (50 times less than the 19.7 mW of power required to do that to the HE6).

post #12290 of 15253

I am not sure I can explain it to you other than to say that "Driven" and "Driven to full potential" are miles apart.


Edited by sluker - 2/27/14 at 11:00pm
post #12291 of 15253
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post
 


That's like a speaker amplifier. Maybe I should just plug the HE-6 to my receiver's speaker output lol.


Yup, that's what most of us are doing.

 

 

yes.gif The votes are in... and the speaker amps have it!

 

 

@ ag8908 - My two speaker amps for the HE-6

 

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post #12292 of 15253
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Originally Posted by Frank I View Post
 

How many like the HE6 with the pleather pads they came with?

I do, by much!

post #12293 of 15253
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Originally Posted by sluker View Post
 

I am not sure I can explain it to you other than to say that "Driven" and "Driven to full potential" are miles apart.


If you have a problem with the claims of Aude'ze spokesman and engineers then you should take it up with them.

post #12294 of 15253
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post. . .

Wow that's an impressive setup. I'll have to take a break to study that setup for a few minutes

post #12295 of 15253
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Originally Posted by ag8908 View Post
 

Can anyone explain why people think you need a very high wattage amplifier for the HE-6? The innerfidelity chart claims that with a mere 19.7 - mW of power, you can get the HE-6 to produce 90 db. The relatively weak Objective 2 amplifier can easily produce much much more than that, producing 88 mW even at 600 ohms (and the HE-6 has much less than 600 ohms of impedance). To be fair, innerfidelity claims that you need a mere 0.16 mW to drive the HD800 to 90 db, so clearly the HE-6 is more power hungry than your average headphone. But I don't know if it's so power hungry that a basic amp can't drive it.

 

I ask because I'm thinking of buying an HE-6 used to add to my collection (I like bright headphones), but I want to make sure I won't have any power issues. I have an O2 amplifier. People who told me the HD800 was hard to drive were dead wrong, it can be driven easily with the amount of power produced by your average laptop jack. Just want to see what the truth is with the HE-6.

I own O2 and cannot drive my HD-650 in full capacity (especially in lows)! Imagine the Hifimans...

Both 650 & HE-6 benefit from plenty of power "margin".

post #12296 of 15253
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If you have a problem with the claims of Aude'ze spokesman and engineers then you should take it up with them.


Hifiman claims the HE-6 needs a minimum of 6wpc to sound optimal. Take it up with them if you don't believe the HE-6 is that demanding.

post #12297 of 15253

Well I guess I won't be buying an HE-6. All the evidence confirms that it is indeed power hungry, and Hifiman's own website claims you need a 5000 mW amplifier at a minimum.

post #12298 of 15253
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post
 


Hifiman claims the HE-6 needs a minimum of 6wpc to sound optimal. Take it up with them if you don't believe the HE-6 is that demanding.


I never said that. I just said the Audeze was not power hungry according to the company and all the evidence.

 

That is odd, though, that Hifiman would make such a power hungry headphone. It's a huge disadvantage from a marketing standpoint. Can any portable amp even drive it?

post #12299 of 15253
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If you have a problem with the claims of Aude'ze spokesman and engineers then you should take it up with them.

Next time I see Alex I will be sure to mention it to him.

post #12300 of 15253

You know it from the outset. :)

 

(sorry, super-fast posting here).


Edited by StryGR - 2/27/14 at 11:09pm
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