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post #12196 of 14897
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Originally Posted by StryGR View Post
 

To all you wise men: ANY headphone-specific amp (in existence today) to best serve Hifimans HE-6?

Apparently people who own the RSA Darkstar like it with the HE-6, haven't tried it though. I haven't found a headphone-specific amp that best serves them. IMO, by the time you do find, you'll wish you got a speaker amp instead given the plethora of options and competitive costs. I know size is an issue for some, but if you want the best, Class A is going to cost you some real estate.

 

EDIT: You could always try a Gainclone/chip amp too. They are small in size, and parts count is under 20. Not sure about synergy, but there are plenty of them floating around on eBay and DIYAudio.


Edited by brunk - 2/24/14 at 12:59pm
post #12197 of 14897
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

Brunk's new toy has arrived, the Audio-GD Master-1 preamp:D

I am impressed with the shipping, only 3 days including Sunday. More to follow in the coming week! 

 

Await your impressions eagerly :popcorn:

post #12198 of 14897
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post

Quick question:  Has anyone heard the HE-6 with the RSA Darkstar and if yes, what was your impression?  I don't intend to purchase one but it came up in a talk with a fellow member.  I don't know the products but the fact that his site is long on explanations but short on technical detail and specs + that apparently his products use extreme gain makes me wary.  What also makes me wary is a quite positive review I read about it on Headphonia, nothing against those people but I find myself often in disagreement when they review stuff I also own.


 



I had the Darkstar for about a year with the HE6. It was good but not great IMO. I tried my friend's HE6 with my Audio-GD Master 9 headphone amp a few weeks ago and I liked it a lot better. I think the M9/HE6 has a fuller body sound (slightly warm, excellent bass, very liquid in the midrange and smooth highs that were natural sounding and not fatiguing at all). If I had the M9 when I owned the HE6, I wouldn't have sold them.
post #12199 of 14897

Happy Camper is here and we're testing the Grill Mod out vs. the Stock (Hardwire) pair.  Grill mod takes the lead on instrumentals.  Vocals are next.

post #12200 of 14897
Now I am reading this is good . Please post details. , what amp and dac also please. .

Al
post #12201 of 14897
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

Happy Camper is here and we're testing the Grill Mod out vs. the Stock (Hardwire) pair.  Grill mod takes the lead on instrumentals.  Vocals are next.

:popcorn:

post #12202 of 14897
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Originally Posted by StryGR View Post
 

To all you wise men: ANY headphone-specific amp (in existence today) to best serve Hifimans HE-6?

 

Auralic Taurus MKII is very good with them, although I have yet to hear the 6 on a great speaker amp pairing (had the Topping TP60 prior to the Taurus) so cannot comment on whether it'll scale higher on such a pairing.

post #12203 of 14897

Yes, but Auralic outputs less than 1 W in unbal mode!! That's a problem.

Anyway, today I tried measuring dynamic power demand on very "heavy" music (drums of Yim Hok-man).

Believe it or not, I measured 25 V instaneous peak, which means over 9 W (!) @ 50 ohm or else over 74 W @ 8 ohm!!!

Imaging Auralic having to withstand this instaneous demand! I think speaker-amp guys are very right...

post #12204 of 14897

Your measurement is meaningless if you don't explain how you measured it , what amp, gain, current, volume-db?

I haven't heard the Auralic myself yet but reports from people I trust suggest the Auralic has no issues powering the HE-6 and is among the best, including speaker amps.

Hopefully I will find out soon for myself...

post #12205 of 14897

I measured using a Fluke rms voltmeter (ac). My Hifimans are connected to a speaker amp (please see my profile).

Volume setting was as far loud as I could bear, without feeling any kind of distorion, all these subjectively.

I hope I answered your questions. I must say that in most of the time, power demand was less than 800 mW, but on very demanding passages, power peaks were tremendous!

post #12206 of 14897
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Originally Posted by StryGR View Post
 

Yes, but Auralic outputs less than 1 W in unbal mode!! That's a problem.

Anyway, today I tried measuring dynamic power demand on very "heavy" music (drums of Yim Hok-man).

Believe it or not, I measured 25 V instaneous peak, which means over 9 W (!) @ 50 ohm or else over 74 W @ 8 ohm!!!

Imaging Auralic having to withstand this instaneous demand! I think speaker-amp guys are very right...

 

So what?

 

The Taurus sounds markedly better than the 80W/channel speaker amp I had before, and vastly better than my Reference 10 which some find adequate with the HE-6. Numerous people now have remarked it's better for them than the EF6 (which isn't reputed to be the best by any means with the HE-6, but drives them at least reasonably well).

 

I do think the HE-6 may well sound better on a good speaker amp pairing, but the question I was answering was specifically about dedicated headphone amps, hence I mentioned the Taurus.

post #12207 of 14897

That's good news provided that one does not listen to loud levels.

post #12208 of 14897
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Originally Posted by StryGR View Post
 

That's good news provided that one does not listen to loud levels.

I did a similar test at a Hifi shop on a McIntosh that had watt meters, and was hitting 10w peaks. If one wants to listen at their loudest volume, 9-10w is required. I think that makes atleast 5 of us now who have tested the HE-6 rigorously.

post #12209 of 14897

Thanks for the Darkstar feedback, guys! 

post #12210 of 14897
6W will produce 114db through the he-6 which is far too loud for most and closed to 120db, which is known to produce permanent earing damage even for short period.
Meanwhile Stry fed 12.5W into his he6 while listening to it?! 😧😮
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