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post #12151 of 19433
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Hello brunk. How much for a F5 built already ?
Also a pick please
Al

PM sent :)

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My current amp (McCormack DNA .5) is all-modded by myself, with online help of Steeve McCormack himself. This amp has no fuses, neither in the AC Mains side nor in the power outputs. I will never forget that night when I hooked my newly-acquired HD-650 to the speaker terminals via a diy adapter (6.3 mm, with common headphone ground).

 

Of course, I happened to wire the adapter the wrong way. Pushing play on my cd player had me listenng to mono! With the edge of my eye, I spotted a yellowish light in(!) my amp (cover was removed). Output of the one channel was shorted and main board started burning and smoke arose. I run to the ac mains switchboard and shut off the breaker.

 

Unforgettable experience! But, I managed to restore burnt pcb traces, spot burnt components (one entire channel power stage went off, as well as many components on the main pcb). Mr. McCormack himself also sent me the amp schematic and helped me in the many questions I had. Good times!

 

Just inspired by brunk's photo above!!

post #12153 of 19433
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Originally Posted by StryGR View Post
 

My current amp (McCormack DNA .5) is all-modded by myself, with online help of Steeve McCormack himself. This amp has no fuses, neither in the AC Mains side nor in the power outputs. I will never forget that night when I hooked my newly-acquired HD-650 to the speaker terminals via a diy adapter (6.3 mm, with common headphone ground).

 

Of course, I happened to wire the adapter the wrong way. Pushing play on my cd player had me listenng to mono! With the edge of my eye, I spotted a yellowish light in(!) my amp (cover was removed). Output of the one channel was shorted and main board started burning and smoke arose. I run to the ac mains switchboard and shut off the breaker.

 

Unforgettable experience! But, I managed to restore burnt pcb traces, spot burnt components (one entire channel power stage went off, as well as many components on the main pcb). Mr. McCormack himself also sent me the amp schematic and helped me in the many questions I had. Good times!

 

Just inspired by brunk's photo above!!

Hehehe, nice story! :evil:

post #12154 of 19433
Thanks
Al
post #12155 of 19433
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Originally Posted by StryGR View Post
 

LOL. ok. Best up to $1,500, in diy or commercial form, or second-hand, bringing the Hifimans close to their limits.

 

EDIT: Sorry. Slow reaction. My answer goes to khaine1711's post!

 

 

If you like SS on the warm side I would go with Pass Labs Aleph 3 or Aleph 5, Threshold T50, Forte 4 or Adcom 535 or 545.

If you like more neutral I would go with Krell ro a small McIntosh SS.

If you want an amplifier that will drive not only the HE-6 excellent but also any other dynamic or planar headphones then I would go wit the Audio-gd Master 9. I listen to it with the HE-6 and HD800 and sounded really good.

post #12156 of 19433
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

What's the question.  

FYI:  All pass amps are not on the warm side of neutral.  You have to discover what's neutral in your book.  Your neutral may not be my neutral.  

For instance:

The BHA-1, Burson HA - 160D, Mjolnir, HifFiman EF-6, and All the Emotiva amps I've heard are bright'ish.

The Audio GD Master 3 and the GS-X mk2, Beta 22, M^3 and Beta 24 are warm'ish.

The First Watt F1J and the SimAudio 6001 sits right in the middle.  So to me these two amps are neutral.  This is a YMMV thing.
Wait! What?
That's interesting you find the EF-6 brightish?
I find it still too warm for the LCD-X. If it really is bright, there ain't many more options for this guy redface.gif.
IMO, the EF-6 is warmer than the NFB-27, which I don't consider bright either.
post #12157 of 19433
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

has been considered to be his best offering yet

 

 

Really not sure he has "a best"  As all his amps are different yet all are good ie his best.  One thing about Nelson Pass.  He wont put it out if it's not his best.   Again, no two amps of his are the same in the First Watt line.  Here are a few descriptions and quotes.

 

The F1 is super clean and dynamic. If your source is lean, your music will be lean. If your source is rich, your music will be rich. It is the real truth machine, with nothing taken out and nothing added. Ruthlessly revealing.

The F2 adds some 2nd harmonic to this. On lean source material this sounds better than the F1. It is putting a little color in your music, and on dry material it is a pleasant addition. Some like that additional color, some do not. Your choice.

The F3 sounds has a very light touch of sweetness. Sounds more like a great tube amp than any solid state amp I have heard, except that it has the same basic tonal characteristics from highs to lows - something most tube amps dream about.

The F4 sounds like a cross between the F1 and the F3. Cleaner than the F2, a touch of sweetness, but the truth is still front and center. I have not heard this amp in my system (yet), so my thoughts about this may change. It is a very exciting product.

Another quote:

In the world of FirstWatt, the F1 had the strongest 3rd-order flavor. Super articulation. Separation. Crispness. And drive. The F1 sounded driven. Propulsive, a clear personality. The F4 and F5 are rather more relaxed entries in that domain, with the F5 slightly more gathered up and sorted than the F4. The buffer/follower amp is the most kif of the bunch as the stamboulis would look for in an opium den - supremely relaxed, in a go-with-the-flow state. The F2 and F3 are sweeter and 'rounder', with the F3 deepest into that particular terrain, the F2 just slightly. In general, numbers 3 to 5 strike me as closer to the center than the first two.
 

Another quote from Nelson:

 

"The F4 is the closest relative to the F5. They both have a clean extended bottom and I consider them almost equivalent, with neither having a distinct advantage. The F4 is a little bit warmer in the mid and might be preferred on simple material at modest volume levels, that is to say a solo vocal or instrument or maybe a string quartet. You could say it's a little more tubey.  

 

As the volume rises and the complexity of the material increases, the F5 pulls ahead by retaining more clarity - specifically less IM type distortion. As a result it does a better job with articulation of instruments. There is a little less smearing. If you have a pair of full range drivers, Lowther PM6A or Feastrex D9nf, the F5 brightens the top end up just a bit, adding a touch of tintinabulation that we all like, although it also heightens the perception of response peaks a little more. In this category, if you find the high efficiency full rangers too bright with the F4 or F5, the F3 is perhaps the more appropriate amp. The imaging is very good with both of these amps in my system, and I haven't heard enough difference to make a decision on that, but the localization is pleasing. The open baffle speakers I'm using already have a big ambient soundstage and would probably do that with any decent amplifier. The F4 is a little more relaxed all around, the F5 carries a little more detail."

post #12158 of 19433
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post


Wait! What?
That's interesting you find the EF-6 brightish?
I find it still too warm for the LCD-X. If it really is bright, there ain't many more options for this guy redface.gif.
IMO, the EF-6 is warmer than the NFB-27, which I don't consider bright either.

 

Clem,

 

Not bright at all.  Just in comparison with the others.  But not as warm as the others that's listed on the warm'ish side.  IMO

post #12159 of 19433

I'm using a Temple Audio Bantam Gold and loving it. Very musical for a SS

post #12160 of 19433
What I want is the equivelent of the hdvd600 with enough power to drive the planars well especially the HE6. My best offering yet is a my aragons from my office rig. But they are huge and heavy. . Bit the sound is what I want . And the sound does not chNge with volume increase . The model is 8008BB ITS FULLY BALANCED . now the aragon 4004 is not balanced input . But sounds the same .

Al
post #12161 of 19433

"for this guy" = the LCD-X, not Darryl of course :D

post #12162 of 19433

I haven't heard the HDV800 or the HDV600 but the impressions are all over the place.  I mean some like them, some love them, some dislike them and some thinks they're trash.  There's no consistency with impressions at all with those amps.

 

That is not a amp I would buy blind.  

 

The GS-X mk2 has a more consistent following.

post #12163 of 19433
I think the many reviews are slighted. First off it's a sennheiser product so it factory . So right off the bat the after market venders will attack it. Next people and me included will be more acute to any short comings it may have. It is extremely neutral as an amp. It will do most headphones and iems very well. But not a He 6 at all . It's thin to start with. So it is not a powerful amp. Although the speed,s area bit misleading. It is a very revealing amp. . Now the dac is not garbage but given the headphones do perform on a critical level it does show a good ear what is is missing. This is why I do Recomend the amp . And even the combo it's a good start dac but a great amp.
Now given I have a 5 k power regenerator and a expensive dac . But I also know what it can give you .

Al
post #12164 of 19433

Dear ALRAINBOW, what is most critical for elevating Hifiman sound? Source (dac) or amplifier upscale? I'm asking you as you have an extremely expensive source.

post #12165 of 19433
A DAC will make more of a overall improvement over an amp. Now given the amp is suitable . Here is an example. I have contemplated in buying and end all be all amp for the HE6. But I do not expect it to be a game changer . But if you have say a 200 DAC. and then buy a good 2k DAC the change will be dramatic.

now let the bashing begin.

Al
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