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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post


You do know to whom you speak! Overkill wasn't given generously or without merit. biggrin.gif

Lol :wink_face:

post #11192 of 19815
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Originally Posted by groovyd View Post
 

I planned to drive them with my HeadRoom Ultra Desktop Amp (which is the DAC/Amp combo not the dedicated amp only).  Will this have sufficient power? I heard mention of the HeadRoom Amp being good enough but wasn't sure if they meant the dedicated amp only or the DAC/Amp.

I have a headroom ultra desktop amp and it does not drive my he6 well. You will get plenty of volume but don't let that fool you. The sound is not what they are capable of at all. 

post #11193 of 19815
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

 

Got blocks or gonna get 'em? Pix if you do, pix when you do....

:popcorn:

 

I was considering the blocks, but I opted for the F5T v2 due to heat dissipation concerns. I am going dual-mono for the PSU though. Will upload when it is complete, still in testing mode. :D

 

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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

T is for Turbo. It's basically 2x (or more) the power of the F5. I personally wouldn't go for it unless you have some inefficient speakers. The specs aren't as good as F5 and they dissipate alot of heat. I have gone the megawatt Class A route before with my home theater and after you finish watching a movie, you feel like you're in the desert lol.

 

Output Power

  • F-5T v2 - 50 Watts per channel into 8ohm
  • F-5T v3 - 100 Watts into 8ohm. (The v3 should be built as monoblocks.)

 

Yea, what he said.

post #11194 of 19815

After I picked up my Aleph 3, I thought about a pair of Aleph 0s to use with my HE-6. I have seen a few go through Audiogon in the past year.

 

 

Hmmm...:evil:

post #11195 of 19815
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Originally Posted by wotts View Post
 

After I picked up my Aleph 3, I thought about a pair of Aleph 0s to use with my HE-6. I have seen a few go through Audiogon in the past year.

 

 

Hmmm...:evil:

how is the Aleph3?

post #11196 of 19815
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

how is the Aleph3?

 

I love it. I think it's on the warm side, almost tube like. I've had the opportunity to compare it against the Dark Star (thanks Jose!) and really couldn't tell them apart. I bought a second one so I'd have one dedicated to the HE-6 and the other to the Wharfedales, but I ended up selling it. It was listed US only, but a cat from Poland begged me to sell it to him. He paid in shipping what I charged for the amp. To go through that hassle speaks volumes on these amps.

 

The 3 never seems to run out of gas driving the speakers or the HE-6s either. I was using an Emotiva pre-amp (USP-1) in line, but I've pulled it out and go directly from the the PWD Mk II now.

post #11197 of 19815
A lot of us go from source to amp. I try and avoid pre amps because good ones are hard to come by. Less is best in general.
post #11198 of 19815
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Originally Posted by wotts View Post
 

 

I love it. I think it's on the warm side, almost tube like. I've had the opportunity to compare it against the Dark Star (thanks Jose!) and really couldn't tell them apart. I bought a second one so I'd have one dedicated to the HE-6 and the other to the Wharfedales, but I ended up selling it. It was listed US only, but a cat from Poland begged me to sell it to him. He paid in shipping what I charged for the amp. To go through that hassle speaks volumes on these amps.

 

The 3 never seems to run out of gas driving the speakers or the HE-6s either. I was using an Emotiva pre-amp (USP-1) in line, but I've pulled it out and go directly from the the PWD Mk II now.

+1 Mr. Pass' Aleph line has an excellent reputation. My next personal project is going to be an Aleph J :D I just wish I had more hands and time in the day to get 'er done!

post #11199 of 19815
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Originally Posted by Happy Camper View Post

A lot of us go from source to amp. I try and avoid pre amps because good ones are hard to come by. Less is best in general.

Yeah, with the new digital age in just the past few years separate preamps are slowly becoming obsolete. I give it 5-10 more years until a 'perfect' analog preamp will be built-in on the DAC chip itself. I also expect to see passive crossovers taking a huge dive, they make zero sense now when you're able to achieve so much higher precision, and tenfold decrease in power consumption with an active crossover. Before you know it, dedicated amps will be a thing of the past because the perfect match will be implemented in the speaker enclosure itself. Real evolution is swooping upon us. I embrace it with open arms! 

post #11200 of 19815
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Originally Posted by wotts View Post
 

 

I love it. I think it's on the warm side, almost tube like. I've had the opportunity to compare it against the Dark Star (thanks Jose!) and really couldn't tell them apart. I bought a second one so I'd have one dedicated to the HE-6 and the other to the Wharfedales, but I ended up selling it. It was listed US only, but a cat from Poland begged me to sell it to him. He paid in shipping what I charged for the amp. To go through that hassle speaks volumes on these amps.

 

The 3 never seems to run out of gas driving the speakers or the HE-6s either. I was using an Emotiva pre-amp (USP-1) in line, but I've pulled it out and go directly from the the PWD Mk II now.

 

When you compare it to the Darkstar, you mean in terms of voicing, right?

How is the Aleph technically, compared to the DS? Is it better at driving the HE-6?

post #11201 of 19815
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

Yeah, with the new digital age in just the past few years separate preamps are slowly becoming obsolete. I give it 5-10 more years until a 'perfect' analog preamp will be built-in on the DAC chip itself. I also expect to see passive crossovers taking a huge dive, they make zero sense now when you're able to achieve so much higher precision, and tenfold decrease in power consumption with an active crossover. Before you know it, dedicated amps will be a thing of the past because the perfect match will be implemented in the speaker enclosure itself. Real evolution is swooping upon us. I embrace it with open arms! 

 

Nah... There will always be tinkerers who want to mix and match components to achieve a different sound...  Maybe Wal-Mart will sell those kind of systems: plug in your thumb-drive, index to the song you want on the touch screen... I think there will be a market for discrete components for a looooong time to come.

 

Look at the "death of the vacuum": the transistor.  How long has it been around?  And now, nearly 70 years later we see a very strong interest in tube designs.  Hell, I've got a Samsung HT system with tubes integrated into it...

post #11202 of 19815
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Originally Posted by potterma View Post
 

 

Nah... There will always be tinkerers who want to mix and match components to achieve a different sound...  Maybe Wal-Mart will sell those kind of systems: plug in your thumb-drive, index to the song you want on the touch screen... I think there will be a market for discrete components for a looooong time to come.

 

Look at the "death of the vacuum": the transistor.  How long has it been around?  And now, nearly 70 years later we see a very strong interest in tube designs.  Hell, I've got a Samsung HT system with tubes integrated into it...

Yeah, that is what I meant, for the general masses. Tweaks will always be around, but I do expect a heavy shift into DSP tweaking too. That is where true personal audio, high fidelity, and room/ear correction will all merge together. Think about it, headphones finally sounding like a real environment, speakers able to automatically adapt to your room/ears. EQ done based on your mood, sonic preferences, different environments, and genres etc. Exciting!

 

Tubes will continue to remain a very small niche as they age and dwindle into non-existence. I personally would rather 'roll' DSP over a 'luck of the draw' with tubes. I want it my way, with endless and profound differences :)

post #11203 of 19815
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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post
 

 

When you compare it to the Darkstar, you mean in terms of voicing, right?

How is the Aleph technically, compared to the DS? Is it better at driving the HE-6?

 

The voicing is very close. As for driving, I'd wager the Aleph has more headroom, but Ray did blow up a pair of HE-6s at a show with the DS. It is not lacking in power.  I like the HE-6 off of my SX-1980, but I still feel they sound best from the Aleph or the DS. They just sound so close. I couldn't pick a winner.

post #11204 of 19815
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

Yeah, that is what I meant, for the general masses. Tweaks will always be around, but I do expect a heavy shift into DSP tweaking too. That is where true personal audio, high fidelity, and room/ear correction will all merge together. Think about it, headphones finally sounding like a real environment, speakers able to automatically adapt to your room/ears. EQ done based on your mood, sonic preferences, different environments, and genres etc. Exciting!

 

Tubes will continue to remain a very small niche as they age and dwindle into non-existence. I personally would rather 'roll' DSP over a 'luck of the draw' with tubes. I want it my way, with endless and profound differences :)

Yes, I'm not likely to get into rolling tubes (though your 300B monoblocks have me intrigued :) ).  I agree, lots of options in the DSP world.  Mass market will continue going that direction.

post #11205 of 19815
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post

Yeah, with the new digital age in just the past few years separate preamps are slowly becoming obsolete. I give it 5-10 more years until a 'perfect' analog preamp will be built-in on the DAC chip itself. I also expect to see passive crossovers taking a huge dive, they make zero sense now when you're able to achieve so much higher precision, and tenfold decrease in power consumption with an active crossover. Before you know it, dedicated amps will be a thing of the past because the perfect match will be implemented in the speaker enclosure itself. Real evolution is swooping upon us. I embrace it with open arms! 
Great thanks after I got my preamp...
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