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post #11011 of 19437
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Originally Posted by rsbrsvp View Post
 

From what I have read- no headphone amplifier in the world will take the HE-6 to it'd maximum potential like a top of the line speaker amplifier.  My question is- how close will the Audio-gd Master 9 get?

 

How much would this 'top of the line' speaker amp cost compared to the M9?

 

Not really a fair statement but if you were to compared the M9 with similar priced speaker amps or even much more expensive headphone amps then that would be a fairer comparison.

post #11012 of 19437

O.K.  I'll try a new question.  Is there any headphone amplifier up to $5000 that could outperform the M9 with the HE-6?  Or better yet-  What is the single best headphone amplifier to match the HE-6 at any cost?


Edited by rsbrsvp - 12/29/13 at 7:31am
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Amp wise, leashing theses cans up to what's in-house... then :tongue_smile: bangin' on the neighbor's door to see what else you could try (or audio boutique) is some kind of adventure. 

post #11014 of 19437

I agree with Silent One. Try what you have first, then go to a HiFi shop and test every amp they have available. Only then will you get a clear picture of synergy, with your desired attributes/features.

post #11015 of 19437
We don't really champion headphone amps. For $5k, I'd be tempted to put it on a used amp in the 8-10k new range. I don't think you'd find a headphone amp to match it.
post #11016 of 19437

Well- I own a Master 9.   I am not going to go out and look for a special amp. for one headphone.  So the question for me is- how good of a job will the Master 9 do with the HE-6 and how will it compare in terms of driving my LCD3?

post #11017 of 19437
Rsb. Save your money. There is no one great amp. The M9 is great cause it just is with everything . There is no headphone I own or anyone else's for that matter. And it is a preamp. If you read a few pages back I did a side by side test with several amps and there was very little direr nice between them. No if you want to be able to chabge the sound of those cans or others . Then a tube Amp fits the bill. I will be around for a while now . Post questions and I will give you my 2 cents . I am not claiming to be the judge or most qualified . But I do have a few to test . And really good equipment to listen to it with.. Sometimes in this hobby /passion we have a desire to spend much more than we need to.. Brunk will agree to this as others.

Al. D
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Originally Posted by rsbrsvp View Post
 

From what I have read- no headphone amplifier in the world will take the HE-6 to it'd maximum potential like a top of the line speaker amplifier.  My question is- how close will the Audio-gd Master 9 get?

 

I think the "problem" is that the HE-6 isn't really a "headphone" in the traditional sense of sensitivity and power requirements. It straddles the weird grey area between headphones and speakers. A headphone amp typically doesn't have enough gain or current drive ability for the HE-6. A power amp typically has far too much gain and power drive, and will also start to exhibit noise problems. In a gross oversimplification, a headphone amp is typically concerned more with the voltage and noise levels due to the high sensitivity of headphones. A power amp usually needs to deliver gobs and gobs of power cleanly and is not usually as concerned with noise to the extent that headphone amps require (because it will be inaudible on speakers).

 

So now you shove the HE-6 into the mix. Headphone amps simply don't have the grunt necessary because most headphones quite frankly don't need more than 100mW of power. No massive current buffers needed, keep the gain low and keep the noise floor non-existant. So then we plug the HE-6 into a speaker amp and oops there's noise, and you're basically wasting all the current drive because you're only using up 1W when the amp can deliver 100W. The amp may even be more optimal (aka "sweet spot") when it pumps more current, which it can't do with the HE-6.

 

*shrug*

 

So one is insufficient, and the other is overdone.

 

Lower power amps are probably the best solution for the time being. I've been pretty happy with various low power class D options that I've tried. I like the idea of a transformer/autoformer coupled tube amp so you're at least running the amp in the optimal range without wasting power.

post #11019 of 19437
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Originally Posted by Armaegis View Post
 

So then we plug the HE-6 into a speaker amp and oops there's noise,

 

 

Umm, I never experienced any noise what so ever out of any of the amps I've tried with the HE-6.  

post #11020 of 19437
I did with the krell. A very low hiss . The attenuation solved it . The hiss was low enough to use without it. But it was there . So my question is , how is your hearing ?? Just kidding
post #11021 of 19437
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Originally Posted by rsbrsvp View Post
 

O.K.  I'll try a new question.  Is there any headphone amplifier up to $5000 that could outperform the M9 with the HE-6?  Or better yet-  What is the single best headphone amplifier to match the HE-6 at any cost?


The M9 will probably one of the better performing headphone amps. The best bet is still to go overkill and get a speaker amp. $5000 will get you a VERY good speaker amp especially if it's used.

 

I'm actually eying some power amps going for around those prices used in hopes to squeeze more performance from these HE-6. If you aren't completely committed to going all the way for these cans, I'd stop at the M9, or better yet the M10. These are the only cans I own so I'm completely committed unlike many others.

 

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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I did with the krell. A very low hiss . The attenuation solved it . The hiss was low enough to use without it. But it was there . So my question is , how is your hearing ?? Just kidding

 

:beerchug:


Edited by ohhgourami - 12/29/13 at 4:55pm
post #11022 of 19437
Your funny , keep u your quest .
post #11023 of 19437
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

I did with the krell. A very low hiss . The attenuation solved it . The hiss was low enough to use without it. But it was there . So my question is , how is your hearing ?? Just kidding

I guess not that good.  I've done waayy to much listening with headphones.  So yes just because I never heard any noise doesn't mean there's none there.

post #11024 of 19437
I'm just messing with you man . It's most likely your amps are quiet. I had to say something you were wide open..
post #11025 of 19437

Woot! Just made the purchase. Looks like Ill be receiving the HE-6 on Wednesday. Ive been preparing for them:

 

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