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post #10996 of 14397
After having the Vegan pads on for a week - with the felt-on-grill mod done before that - I would actually call the sound I get a little dark...!

The lower mids and bass (incl. sub bass) is more prominent than with HiFiMan pads, and the extra amount of lower mids is slightly too much. This is creating a slight "veil" - a bit like pushing speakers too close to the front wall; the tonality gets darker and this veils the sound a bit.

I should add that I still have the stock quarter foam on while putting felt on the rest of the grill.

Anyone with Audeze micro suede pads and felt-on-grill mod who also removed the stock quarter foam - please chime in on how you hear the tonality.
post #10997 of 14397
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

After having the Vegan pads on for a week - with the felt-on-grill mod done before that - I would actually call the sound I get a little dark...!

The lower mids and bass (incl. sub bass) is more prominent than with HiFiMan pads, and the extra amount of lower mids is slightly too much. This is creating a slight "veil" - a bit like pushing speakers too close to the front wall; the tonality gets darker and this veils the sound a bit.

I should add that I still have the stock quarter foam on while putting felt on the rest of the grill.

Anyone with Audeze micro suede pads and felt-on-grill mod who also removed the stock quarter foam - please chime in on how you hear the tonality.
That quarter foam doesn't matter nearly as much as removing the cotton from the rear mesh. That's why it sounds congested.
post #10998 of 14397

I did remove both the foam and white fibres on the back of the driver a few weeks ago (before I got the Audeze pads). I still feel that with the vegan pads the lower mids are a little too much for my ears (in terms of being closer to neutral).

 

How did you hear the removal of the quarter foam? Just more treble or both more treble and upper mids?


Edited by LarsHP - 12/27/13 at 3:20pm
post #10999 of 14397
Just taped the vegan right on the cups: it is indeed much better!
Sub-bass extension is better than the stock pleathers but it seems bass is now stealing the show. Treble and midrange lost their magic a bit.
I might need a brighter DAC to check if it is just a shift in tonality. I need to wait for my Ciunas to come back.
post #11000 of 14397

I only learned Thursday that my pads from Lawton Audio are shipping Monday, 30 December. Ordered them 14 November.... can't wait!

:popcorn:

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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post
 

I did remove both the foam and white fibres on the back of the driver a few weeks ago (before I got the Audeze pads). I still feel that with the vegan pads the lower mids are a little too much for my ears (in terms of being closer to neutral).

 

How did you hear the removal of the quarter foam? Just more treble or both more treble and upper mids?

 

I think the quarter foam brings out the upper mids a bit. I can't use mine as it disintegrated, but I think mine sound very neutral. Maybe a more powerful amp would help your issue? :tongue:

 

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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post

Just taped the vegan right on the cups: it is indeed much better!
Sub-bass extension is better than the stock pleathers but it seems bass is now stealing the show. Treble and midrange lost their magic a bit.
I might need a brighter DAC to check if it is just a shift in tonality. I need to wait for my Ciunas to come back.

Have you taken out the white fibers? Doing so brings back the treble and midrange.

post #11002 of 14397
Thanks ohhgourami. I will try to remove the quarter foam without tearing it apart... It's a new sound completely after having both the vegan pads and felt-on-grill mod on the HE-6: Too dark! Certainly not by much, but slightly darker mids than I prefer. Treble - bass balance is about right I think.
post #11003 of 14397
Clemaster , may I ask what dac you are using. .?

Al. D
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

Clemaster , may I ask what dac you are using. .?

Al. D
Audio-gd SA-2. It is not as warm as you may think (again, Kingwa was spot on in his description) but still smooth up top.

Now that I think of it, with this sound signature I could well use a Metrum DAC! Or the DP1.
post #11005 of 14397
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Originally Posted by LarsHP View Post

Thanks ohhgourami. I will try to remove the quarter foam without tearing it apart... It's a new sound completely after having both the vegan pads and felt-on-grill mod on the HE-6: Too dark! Certainly not by much, but slightly darker mids than I prefer. Treble - bass balance is about right I think.

Removing the white fibers should have completely opened up the mids. Maybe you should too thick of felt? Maybe leave the rear mesh off completely and see how you like it. If that fixes it, then you might need a new mesh.

 

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Originally Posted by Clemmaster View Post


Audio-gd SA-2. It is not as warm as you may think (again, Kingwa was spot on in his description) but still smooth up top.

Now that I think of it, with this sound signature I could well use a Metrum DAC! Or the DP1.


If you want amazing mids, get the Master-7. If amazing detail retrieval, lots of air, and amazing treble get an NFB-7.32.

post #11006 of 14397
clemaster have you tried the M7 it is a little warm to my ears. also a tube preamp will most defiantly do the trick to.
post #11007 of 14397
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post
 

Removing the white fibers should have completely opened up the mids. Maybe you should too thick of felt? Maybe leave the rear mesh off completely and see how you like it. If that fixes it, then you might need a new mesh.


If you want amazing mids, get the Master-7. If amazing detail retrieval, lots of air, and amazing treble get an NFB-7.32.

 

The SA-2 is an amazing DAC too.

I owned the NFB-27 and it is as you describe.

post #11008 of 14397

From what I have read- no headphone amplifier in the world will take the HE-6 to it'd maximum potential like a top of the line speaker amplifier.  My question is- how close will the Audio-gd Master 9 get?

post #11009 of 14397
that is not true, there are good headphone amps for the he 6 audio gd has three that i am awaire of. however it is simpler to try what you have then go and buy . cheaper too.
post #11010 of 14397
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Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

that is not true, there are good headphone amps for the he 6 audio gd has three that i am awaire of. however it is simpler to try what you have then go and buy . cheaper too.

Please, what are the three??

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