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post #10186 of 14888
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

Why are they called Jerg pads? Does it have anything to do with Jerg Jecklin?

Because @jerg created it. 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/646812/hifiman-he500-he400-jergpad-mod-v2-5-modulor-orders-updated-november

post #10187 of 14888
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Originally Posted by Silent One View Post
 

Did HiFiMAN achieve their goal with the new ring?

:popcorn:


I wouldn't know as I refuse to use pleathers! :tongue:

 

That ring doesn't fit on my first gen velours.

post #10188 of 14888

Yeah I'm not sure why they put the ring in there. I actually have both 1st and 2nd gen pleather and velour pads. I prefer the 1st gen velour, but I have never tried the Jerg pads i made on the HE-6 yet. The 1st gen velour are a little skinnier so the driver is closer to your ear, which i believe helps with bass output, but not much. The 2nd gen are just a little too bright, and the pleathers always had a muffle to them, but the Jerg pads address this issue. I can't wait to try it out soon and report the findings for you all :)


Edited by brunk - 11/13/13 at 1:01am
post #10189 of 14888

How does the Jerg pad sound when compared to stock pleather or velour pads?

 

And while there are many positive remarks about Jerg pads with HE-500, why isn't there such feedback with HE-6? Perhaps the Jerg pads were optimized to work best with HE-500 and not HE-6?

 

If so, isn't there any pad that is optimized with the HE-6? Preferably trimming down its treble and making it a bit warmer or neutral, like the Anax mod of HD800?

post #10190 of 14888
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

How does the Jerg pad sound when compared to stock pleather or velour pads?

 

And while there are many positive remarks about Jerg pads with HE-500, why isn't there such feedback with HE-6? Perhaps the Jerg pads were optimized to work best with HE-500 and not HE-6?

 

If so, isn't there any pad that is optimized with the HE-6? Preferably trimming down its treble and making it a bit warmer or neutral, like the Anax mod of HD800?

There's a graph, i think jerg made it, that illustrates the velour vs pleather vs jerg pads for the HE-500. It's something vaguely like this:

Tonal balance

Dark<---pleather-----jerg--neutral-----velour--->bright

 

SOUNDSTAGE

closed<----pleather--middle---jerg--velour-->open

 

jerg pads with grill mod even the soundstage field with the velour, but still retain bass/mid-bass of pleathers.

 

That's the best i can explain in 30 secs. lol

 

It hasn't been done yet with HE-6 and I think we are finally just now coming around to it. Some have experimente with pads, but it's never been a collective effort.


Edited by brunk - 11/13/13 at 1:36am
post #10191 of 14888
This is an awesome thread! I sent my HE-6 back today, but the more I read the more I know I am buying another pair. I live about 50 minutes from the factory, so I am seriously considering making a visit. Maybe they will let me pick my own pair. But I already know I'll be choping them up and applying some of these great mods! Why settle for stock when you can have your own custom pair!? smily_headphones1.gif
Edited by Karllin - 11/13/13 at 1:56am
post #10192 of 14888

Hmmm, I might consider modding beyond installing factory provided pads but AFTER the warranty expires because -at least in Europe- if they detect any kind of tinkering, no matter if it's totally unrelated to an issue that pops up and is covered that's an instant warranty kill here.

 

I installed the velours pads that came in the box on my new HE-500 and they do sound a bit more open and lighter.  Not that they weren't good before but it is an improvement.  Only problem is those velours pads are serious dust magnets.

post #10193 of 14888

I believe Hifiman introduced the rubber ring because the initial pleather pads were too soft and thin so many people's ears rubbed against the driver and they sounded just bad. Mine came without the ring and have been a waist of money.

Using black Beyer DT990 pads with mine with modded grill and damping.

post #10194 of 14888

The Stock Denon pads have served me well for over a year now.

post #10195 of 14888

I should try the pleather pads then. The HE-6 is one of the most neutral headphones I've heard, but it is still slightly bright. Not HD800 bright, but one could hope for a bit more warmth. I would like to see how the pleather pads could make the HE-6 sound warmer, at the expense of soundstage.

post #10196 of 14888
I tried sealing the slight gap between the cups and the pads with double sided tape using stock pleather and don't hear any difference at all. There is still no pressure/vacuum when I push and draw to check if there is a complete seal, so I thought the headphone itself isn't airtight around the driver. Theoretically a complete seal could improve sub bass performance AFAIK, but I haven't heard it.
post #10197 of 14888

I actually think the HE-6 sounds very good without a perfect seal, that why the Hifiman velour are so stiff. just try to slightly lift the headphone off your ears. I was considering modding the pad to allow a slight angle and a small gap between the plastic ring and the driver.

post #10198 of 14888
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

I should try the pleather pads then. The HE-6 is one of the most neutral headphones I've heard, but it is still slightly bright. Not HD800 bright, but one could hope for a bit more warmth. I would like to see how the pleather pads could make the HE-6 sound warmer, at the expense of soundstage.

Sounds to me that what you're looking for is a HE-500 with velours pads :-)

post #10199 of 14888
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Originally Posted by ohhgourami View Post
 

I'm thinking about giving the Audeze "Vegan" pads a try with mine.

I have tried several different ear pads in my HE-6 from all the different models from HiFi-Man, several Beyerdanimic, Denon JMoney and the Audeze vegan. IMO the Audeze vegan are the best and the ones I am still using.

post #10200 of 14888
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Originally Posted by Xenophon View Post

Hmmm, I might consider modding beyond installing factory provided pads but AFTER the warranty expires because -at least in Europe- if they detect any kind of tinkering, no matter if it's totally unrelated to an issue that pops up and is covered that's an instant warranty kill here.

I installed the velours pads that came in the box on my new HE-500 and they do sound a bit more open and lighter.  Not that they weren't good before but it is an improvement.  Only problem is those velours pads are serious dust magnets.
A repair of the 6 was $120-130 out of warranty. For a $1400 headphone, that's pretty good.
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