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post #10021 of 14286
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

 

I plan on taking my HE-6 to more local hifi shops too.

I live in a neighborhood which perhaps has the best hifi shops in Korea.

I'd like to see just high the HE-6 can scale, test its so-called "ceiling." :cool: 

Excellent! Chastise your wallet though :evil: 

post #10022 of 14286
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

 

I plan on taking my HE-6 to more local hifi shops too.

I live in a neighborhood which perhaps has the best hifi shops in Korea.

I'd like to see just high the HE-6 can scale, test its so-called "ceiling." :cool: 

 

These sound like the words of a non believer.  Well, all I can say is I was a non believer before as well.  Now I can see the light:biggrin:

post #10023 of 14286
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post
 

 

These sound like the words of a non believer.  Well, all I can say is I was a non believer before as well.  Now I can see the light:biggrin:

Come see the light Songmic

:beerchug:

post #10024 of 14286
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Originally Posted by songmic View Post
 

 

I plan on taking my HE-6 to more local hifi shops too.

I live in a neighborhood which perhaps has the best hifi shops in Korea.

I'd like to see just high the HE-6 can scale, test its so-called "ceiling." :cool: 

 

:thumb: Pig-tailing the retailers... big fun! 

post #10025 of 14286
Fear no amp, take on all comers. Just be respectful of the volume knob for the biggest ones. redface.gif

If they have a top end Simaudio Evolution, give er a spin.
post #10026 of 14286

I've less than 200 hours on my cans... 166 @ this writing. :normal_smile : 

 

I look forward to this little adventure over the year-end holidays.

post #10027 of 14286
I've played around with different amps that I will never be able to afford and haven't hit the ceiling yet. These are end gamers, if there is such a thing. It's not hard to spend a few thousands on an amp and surpass the 009 easily. And I absolutely love the 009.
post #10028 of 14286
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

It's rated at 15w, but since preproman has the 10w F1, im sure the F3 would do just fine. The only caveat is that you'll need an active pre, the input impedance is too low for a passive pre. Here's a great comparison chart, along with relevant links to the First Watt amps.

 

http://www.firstwatt.com/prod.html

(scroll down a bit)

@brunk and Dubstep Girl

I just checked the F3 manual.  Specs page says +/- 13 V peak at clipping (2.5 amps peak).

 

My HE-6 come in at 61 ohms.  A bit above the "nominal" 50 ohm spec, so take my comments with that in mind.  I find for all out maximum peak bass performance, I need +/- 20 V.  That translates to just over 6.5 W peak into my HE-6.  

 

13 volts peak across 50 ohms will give you just shy of 3.4 watts peak.

 

If you don't listen at high SPL the F3 may do just fine for you.  It certainly has the current capacity to drive them!

post #10029 of 14286
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Originally Posted by potterma View Post
 

@brunk and Dubstep Girl

I just checked the F3 manual.  Specs page says +/- 13 V peak at clipping (2.5 amps peak).

 

My HE-6 come in at 61 ohms.  A bit above the "nominal" 50 ohm spec, so take my comments with that in mind.  I find for all out maximum peak bass performance, I need +/- 20 V.  That translates to just over 6.5 W peak into my HE-6.  

 

13 volts peak across 50 ohms will give you just shy of 3.4 watts peak.

 

If you don't listen at high SPL the F3 may do just fine for you.  It certainly has the current capacity to drive them!

 

i listen pretty loud....

 

looks like i need a 25, preferably a 50 watt amp.... to do the he-6 justice.

post #10030 of 14286
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Originally Posted by potterma View Post
 

@brunk and Dubstep Girl

I just checked the F3 manual.  Specs page says +/- 13 V peak at clipping (2.5 amps peak).

 

My HE-6 come in at 61 ohms.  A bit above the "nominal" 50 ohm spec, so take my comments with that in mind.  I find for all out maximum peak bass performance, I need +/- 20 V.  That translates to just over 6.5 W peak into my HE-6.  

 

13 volts peak across 50 ohms will give you just shy of 3.4 watts peak.

 

If you don't listen at high SPL the F3 may do just fine for you.  It certainly has the current capacity to drive them!

Ask yourself this question - "Will I be listening to content with extreme (<40hz) sub-bass at high SPL?"

 

I do think the F3 would be just fine at normal conditions, except for the most challenging scenarios. If you find yourself saying 'yes' to the above question, then pass on the F3.

post #10031 of 14286
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Originally Posted by potterma View Post
 

@brunk and Dubstep Girl

I just checked the F3 manual.  Specs page says +/- 13 V peak at clipping (2.5 amps peak).

 

My HE-6 come in at 61 ohms.  A bit above the "nominal" 50 ohm spec, so take my comments with that in mind.  I find for all out maximum peak bass performance, I need +/- 20 V.  That translates to just over 6.5 W peak into my HE-6.  

 

13 volts peak across 50 ohms will give you just shy of 3.4 watts peak.

 

If you don't listen at high SPL the F3 may do just fine for you.  It certainly has the current capacity to drive them!

 

Why does your HE-6 come at 61 ohms? Is it some kind of defect?

Shouldn't it affect sound?

post #10032 of 14286
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

Ask yourself this question - "Will I be listening to content with extreme (<40hz) sub-bass at high SPL?"

 

I do think the F3 would be just fine at normal conditions, except for the most challenging scenarios. If you find yourself saying 'yes' to the above question, then pass on the F3.

I find myself answering YES! 

 

YMMV, IMHO, etc, etc, blah, blah....  :)

 

The 25 W at 8 ohms rated F5 amp and the F1 will both drive the HE-6 splendidly, despite their diminutive (comparatively) specs.  Both are rated +/- 20 V peak at lots of current.  You can't de-rate a First Watt amp (or a few other select brands) the same way you can a lot of other amplifiers when estimating output power into a higher impedance.  One needs to look at the maximum voltage and maximum current specifications and calculate power with a given impedance from Ohms law.

 

The standard ratiometric relationship of Max headphone drive = rated power * rated impedance / headphone impedance doesn't work in this case.

 

Don't be put off by the power rating of the First Watt amps.  Give 'em a shot, at least!

 

 

-michael

post #10033 of 14286
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Originally Posted by potterma View Post
 

I find myself answering YES! 

 

YMMV, IMHO, etc, etc, blah, blah....  :)

 

The 25 W at 8 ohms rated F5 amp and the F1 will both drive the HE-6 splendidly, despite their diminutive (comparatively) specs.  Both are rated +/- 20 V peak at lots of current.  You can't de-rate a First Watt amp (or a few other select brands) the same way you can a lot of other amplifiers when estimating output power into a higher impedance.  One needs to look at the maximum voltage and maximum current specifications and calculate power with a given impedance from Ohms law.

 

The standard ratiometric relationship of Max headphone drive = rated power * rated impedance / headphone impedance doesn't work in this case.

 

Don't be put off by the power rating of the First Watt amps.  Give 'em a shot, at least!

 

 

-michael

Well said. The other factor you must take into consideration is your preamp specs at this range of power amps to form a better picture.

post #10034 of 14286
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Originally Posted by brunk View Post
 

Well said. The other factor you must take into consideration is your preamp specs at this range of power amps to form a better picture.

Indeed!  Have to have the full picture!

 

@songmic  No, not a defect, just variation in the manufacturing process.  Makes it a tad harder to drive, but I don't mind.  


Edited by potterma - 11/9/13 at 8:30pm
post #10035 of 14286
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Originally Posted by potterma View Post
 

Indeed!  Have to have the full picture!

 

@songmic  No, not a defect, just variation in the manufacturing process.  Makes it a tad harder to drive, but I don't mind.  

I had mine modded with a 12ft. BTG Sunset cable. "Wire is 26 AWG and has 4 wires per channel (2 signal, 2 ground). This creates a 23 ~20 AWG equivalent wire per channel." That's 48ft. of wire per channel for me. I never checked my impedance after the mod until now (since i had my meter out already) it comes in at 70ohms! This is with banana plugs, and alligator clips attached to them from the meter. I will definitely be taking off the plugs, now that I see this. I don't want to snip the cable though, I need my distance! Worst case I think I can squeeze 14-18 awg into the cups and sell the beautiful BTG cable.


Edited by brunk - 11/9/13 at 8:48pm
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