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post #736 of 1496

In case anyone's curious about how the PWD MKII's coax and USB outputs compare, I did some A/Bing using my Cardas Clear USB cable and my Halide Design Bridge USB-to-SPDIF converter.  I only listened to a few tracks in J. River off an external hard drive, all of which were 24/96 or standard definition.  LCD-3s were the headphones.

 

The differences are definitely subtle, but it seemed to me that the USB output was better.  The same tracks on coax felt tinnier and less tonally real, with a compressed dynamic range.  USB felt more robust, textured, and lively.  Coax seemed a bit hazier and less precise, both in terms of resolution and the 3-dimensionality of the space in which instruments appear and resonate.  More of the LCD-3's headspace seemed to fill up on USB.  Vocals have more presence and body to them on USB, while seeming slightly veiled and timid on coax.

 

In addition, in coax mode, the PWD is slower to buffer and process a change to a new song or a different bitrate/sample rate; on USB, my computer and the PWD handle the transitions almost seamlessly.

 

Of course, it's possible that the Halide Bridge isn't the best USB-coax converter, and/or it doesn't fully utilize the PWD's coax capabilities.  The Cardas cable might also be part of the advantage, to the extent digital cables can sound significantly different.  But the results were a bit surprising to me, since it's often said on Head-fi that USB audio still has a long way to go to measure up to the level of formats designed with audio in mind, like SPDIF.  In these particular setups, USB was definitely not inferior to coax, and I ended up preferring USB on every test track (though not always by a large margin).

post #737 of 1496

I'd really like an impression w/o the converter if you can swing it at some point.

post #738 of 1496

simple question gentlemen:

 

- can the PWD play music from a SD card or a memory stick attached to it's back ?

 

- Is the "volume on the touch panel" really usable ? I would 200% have prefered a real rotating knob !

 

thanks in advance

post #739 of 1496
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Originally Posted by bmichels View Post

simple question gentlemen:

 

- can the PWD play music from a SD card or a memory stick attached to it's back ?

 

- Is the "volume on the touch panel" really usable ? I would 200% have prefered a real rotating knob !

 

thanks in advance


1) No

2) I use it.

post #740 of 1496
I use the volume feature but only with the remote. I agree, a rotating knob would have been nice, but because it is digital volume control, I'm not sure how it would work. It would also mess up the aesthetics a bit.

I think it would be not too great to use the touch screen directly, but because my amp sits across the room from where I listen, it allows me to fine tune it on my amps that don't have remotes (e.g. WA22, BHA-1).
post #741 of 1496

Hah.  You might think differently after you hear it w/ a 'rotating knob'.  Unless you want to drop another $250-$800 on a proper 'rotating knob'. 

 

I never use it below 62% as PS Audio said degradation occurs below 60% if I recall.  This lets me crank up the inferior 'rotating knobs' on most amps so they get more out of the way.

post #742 of 1496

Any PWD2 owner heard the Metrum Octave or my previous W4S DAC-2 and could provide a comparison to either?  I use an AP2 with the Octave for what its worth.

post #743 of 1496

Solude, have you read about the upcoming Metrum Hex? Any comments?

post #744 of 1496

Read yes, interested no.  But should move this to the Octave thread.

post #745 of 1496
Thread Starter 

Anyone using an Apple Airport Express to connect to the PWD Bridge?  I recently changed from Gen1 to the new one and notice there is slightly better sounding, not sure it is the amount of bandwidth it can handle or not but all my music are FLAC or Apple lossless on NAS from 30 feet away. 

post #746 of 1496
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Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Any PWD2 owner heard the Metrum Octave or my previous W4S DAC-2 and could provide a comparison to either?  I use an AP2 with the Octave for what its worth.

My experience is limited to the W4S DAC2 and the Metrum Octave , and for classical music I would choose the Octave . When properly burned in , the W4S for jazz and vocals.

It's a shame having to realize , how good the W4S could sound only on the night, before it got sold. mad.gif

post #747 of 1496

Glad to sell you mine ;)

post #748 of 1496

Hahaha...I had a feeling you would say that.  I had a buyer , here @HF and pointed him to your direction.


Edited by rubenpp - 10/10/12 at 8:34pm
post #749 of 1496

Well the W4S is gone, got some new cables on route, trying super hard to finish a PWD2 deal but the seller is busy with post trade show activities so things are stalled.

 

Assuming I do see one this year, what amps are synergising well with the PWD2 and LCD-3?

 

I think I've read that PWD2 owners prefer the balanced outputs which likely rules out a lot of options and that the PWD2 likely uses summing to generate the single ended outputs.

 

Also with NativeX anyone have thoughts on the feed from a PC over usb, coax and usb>spdif?

post #750 of 1496
Quote:
Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Well the W4S is gone, got some new cables on route, trying super hard to finish a PWD2 deal but the seller is busy with post trade show activities so things are stalled.

 

Assuming I do see one this year, what amps are synergising well with the PWD2 and LCD-3?

 

I think I've read that PWD2 owners prefer the balanced outputs which likely rules out a lot of options and that the PWD2 likely uses summing to generate the single ended outputs.

 

Also with NativeX anyone have thoughts on the feed from a PC over usb, coax and usb>spdif?

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