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post #1321 of 1508

This is interesting, apparently I bought an alpha copy of Jriver Media Center for Mac when it was introduced for half price, and forgot all about it...  I need to read up on that now.

post #1322 of 1508
Yes and it's not dead . It's just not getting any future updates . And although the ps audio site is great , if yours stops working cause of changing your setup it most likely not work. As for the remote control you are correct the CPU is still the server for jriver. But is you use minum server it's not and the iPad does all the pointing to the nas. . Honestly I had so much trouble with my bridge I sold it. So I use and offramp connected to my PC and i2s from offramp to the Pwd
I use jriver remote to control and I canoeing to all my music servers . It works fine and sounds better than the bridge or PWT. And PWT is up for sale too. Now if you have it working that's fine . But me and whole lot of others is does not.

I spent hours trying to make it work with ps audio support. And it's not the bridge it's the e lyric app. Especially with the io7 I pads. .

post #1323 of 1508

All I want is an app that runs on iPad or iPhone, that can see the PWD and the LaCie NAS on the network and let me connect them without having to have the iMac turned on 24/7.  


i.e. Music on LaCie NAS > ethernet > PWD Bridge DAC > Amp > headphones, using the iPad to control playback.


If I do have the iMac turned on, it's running Twonky server which is so much more intuitive than Jriver MC19 that I still don't understand.


Why would PSA drop support and updates for the eLyric App which is essential for using the PWD Bridge without a computer?  Especially if App version 2.0.9 still works (last I tried) and 2.1.0 and 2.1.1 doesn't  ????  The current version just shuts down immediately after loading, so it's useless.


If they could even add Airplay support to the Bridge, to include 24/96 and 24/192 files, I'd be happy to stream from my Mac and iPad that way.


On Another Note - Plug Player app for my Macbook came out a few years ago and seemed like it was in perpetual alpha and beta testing - not ready for prime-time for a while and I gave up on it.  However I fired it up tonight, and it finds the LaCie NAS and the PWD Bridge and lets me control my music playback on the NAS/PWD/Bridge via my Macbook Pro, without having to run a music server on another mac 24/7.


So, is there anything like PlugPlayer App for iPhone other than eLyric?  (I don't count Jriver because it seems to need it's server running on a PC)

post #1324 of 1508
I wish I could help , but I cannot . I sold my bridge for lack of a good working PC solution. . It does work fine with USB and my offramp. Bu the PC must be running even if using the iPad. . But my CPU runs all the time anyway.

Now I also have a krell music server and a msb UMT plus trans port. And they both have iPad apps and do not need a PC running. So I do feel your pain. Now the good news is ps audio is up to something big for us Pwd people so stay tuned .
post #1325 of 1508

Spoke too soon - PlugPlayer is still buggy.  I had tried 3-4 songs on a Diana Krall album, but when I changed media servers it won't play on the PWD now. I changed Media Server back and changed Media Renderer to the Macbook and then it plays locally.  But then I change albums and no music locally anymore. Quit and reload, still nothing.  Junk...  No rhyme or reason for working or not.

post #1326 of 1508
It's why I sold the bridge. I would stop jriver And it would keep playing. It really did drive me crazy. But there seems to be people that still swear it's fine. I seared too for but in a different way.
post #1327 of 1508
Thread Starter 
For me it is working perfectly, works perfect with my iPad 4 ruining latest iOS. However I can't get it working on my iPhone and iPad rMini, maybe it is the cellular data causing it?
post #1328 of 1508
Originally Posted by ALRAINBOW View Post

It's why I sold the bridge. I would stop jriver And it would keep playing. It really did drive me crazy. But there seems to be people that still swear it's fine. I seared too for but in a different way.


Well, I got JRiver Media Center 19 running, and added my iTunes Music folder to the Library.  I was initially trying to activate MC19 with my recovered .mjr file for MC18, and used up 6 of my 12 .mjr downloads in two minutes because I couldn't get Jriver to activate. Then I figured out that the license I had didn't match the version I was trying to activate, so I installed MC18 instead, but it was too old and lacked features. Then I upgraded to MC19 for half price and I still have 10 downloads left in 12 months (don't ask).


I was able to figure out how to add the Perfectwave DAC as a renderer without the user manual by buying the iPhone app and running it, which then told me where to find the settings in the Mac Media Center software (tools > options).  MC19 looks like it was made for PC not Mac, and it's not very intuitive to dive through the menus either, but I managed to figure the basics out until I can RTFM.


I do think it was a mistake for them to default to "transcoding on" in the iPhone remote app at 128kbps, and I had to turn it off to listen to lossless with the PWD. If your listening via the local network, then why try to transcode and safe bandwidth?


It's interesting that I can get the iPhone app to let me simultaneously play one song via the PWD Bridge, and another song via the built-in speakers on the iMac - truly two zones. In doing that I noticed that if I switched from controlling one to the other, when I hit pause the other one would keep playing until I went back to that one and hit pause again (must pause once for each zone).


Anyway, I got the Remote app working and I can play any music from my iTunes library on my iMac through the PWD, iPhone or iMac as the renderer.  Previously to listen to my iTunes library via the Bridge I would use Twonky Server on the iMac to share music with the PWD while being controlled via eLyric.  I won't need to run Twonky server too if I'm running the Jriver server for my iTunes library. But I liked that Twonky hides in the top menu bar and my wife doesn't touch it - she accidentally brought forward the hidden Media Center app and closed it by accident.


I still need to know, can Jriver remote control access other DLNA or uPNP servers and feed the music to the Bridge when the MC19 app is not running on the Mac, like eLyric can? I also often used the LaCie NAS & eLyric for when the iMac is not turned on.  It's supposed to be on all the time when I'm at home, but sometimes It might be off by accident or we forget to turn it on when we get back home.


I may investigate the "related apps" listed in the iTunes store to see if there is anything that can do that.  eLyric 2.0.9 still works for me, but I have to avoid the "update all" button on my iPhone or I'll lose it and have to go back to my hard drive for the old version. The current version 2.1.1 in the App store crashes upon being launched.  BASTIDS

post #1329 of 1508
The CPU must be running for the PC version to run. Unlike the other IPAD apps I have But since I amusing the USB I really have no choice. I also have a surface pro to use but it really is the same issue as the it's USB.

post #1330 of 1508
Seems I may soon have one of these. Silver 240v version with network bridge (that was included in the excellent price, so not too fussed if there are issues with the bridge that make it less than ideal). Picked it up new for about a third the price or sells for here (in other words roughly the 'normal' US price ~$2500, only a slight premium for it being the 240v version).
Edited by NZtechfreak - 2/25/14 at 1:20pm
post #1331 of 1508

I like the software interface in the Jriver remote, and it's been working well to control my Bridge, so everything is great as long as nobody turns off the iMac.  I still have to hang onto eLyric remote app rev 2.0.9 in order to control the Bridge with music residing on my NAS.  I've saved multiple copies of 2.0.9 so that I won't ever lose the old version that doesn't quit upon launch.  


I have an unused iPhone 5 here (as a backup) that I might wipe clean and install only eLyric 2..1.1 without any email or iCloud settings, in order to see if a bare bones iPhone can run 2.1.1 - then I'll add settings software one at a time until I find out why it crashes on my 5s, iPad Air, and iPad mini retina.


PlugPlayer for Mac still is buggy and doesn't control the Bridge from my Macbook reliably (autocorrect changed it to pogoplug???).  The sound of the PWD Mk2 is worth the hassle, but I paid $2200 for a used Mk2 three years ago, then $799 for a Bridge right away, and then $899 for a Mk2 upgrade last fall.  That's a lot of $$ for something that requires third party software to control the Bridge playback correctly.

Edited by HeadphoneAddict - 2/25/14 at 8:59pm
post #1332 of 1508

new psaudio dsd dac announced today? anywhere with more info? http://www.psaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/PS-Audio-DirectStream.pdf

post #1333 of 1508

Full stop when I saw the price ;)

post #1334 of 1508
Originally Posted by Solude View Post

Full stop when I saw the price ;)


Very disappointed as well.  $6K means the upgrade will be at least $2K but could easily be more.  :(

post #1335 of 1508
The upgrade is 3 k. And I ordered it immediately. This DAC we own is now if upgraded becomes a game changer .

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