Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › HFI (High Fi International) Appreciation and Rooth Impressions Thread - New online company in Japan
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

HFI (High Fi International) Appreciation and Rooth Impressions Thread - New online company in Japan - Page 5

post #61 of 85

They are quite easy to find in Tokyo at least, some shops in Akiba as well as one in Nakano sell ALO products. Must be some others too, but haven't found them yet
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExpatinJapan View Post

Just checked out the site, some interesting products there, good to see ALO products in japan.

post #62 of 85
Thread Starter 

I am not sure if there are too many places. I was at Yodabashi today and saw there were selling Ibasso.

post #63 of 85

Skoog, we need a full length review of the LS8 and the remolded JH13! 

post #64 of 85
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by koonhua90 View Post

Skoog, we need a full length review of the LS8 and the remolded JH13! 


Yes you do and I apologize I am at the end of teaching for the summer and it is crazy busy. I will do my best to get something up within this week. Thanks for the prod ...

post #65 of 85
Quote:
Originally Posted by frenchbat View Post

They are quite easy to find in Tokyo at least, some shops in Akiba as well as one in Nakano sell ALO products. Must be some others too, but haven't found them yet
 


 


Yeah I stumbled across that shop last week in Sun Mall.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by skoog5600 View Post

I am not sure if there are too many places. I was at Yodabashi today and saw there were selling Ibasso.


It seems this week all the local big dept stores are getting in ibasso T3 and D2+Boa.

post #66 of 85
Thread Starter 

7/29/10 Updated review complete with new photos (sorry taken with my iphone - see pics at the bottom of this review)

 

First of all, I apologize for the delay in getting up a more comprehensive review of the remolded JH13s and the LS8 customs from Rooth. It’s been a busy couple of weeks here in Tokyo, but I am now on working holiday and have been able to spend a good deal of time listening to both.

 

Let me reiterate the workmanship from Rooth on both the 13 remolds (BLUE) and the new LS8 customs (RED) are flawless. The fit is perfect for both, quick and easy to put in, take out and a good seal.

 

I am finding there is quite a discernible difference between the two and it is a bit different than my initial impressions I had written up on 7/8/10. Also I have been playing around with different cables and that has also had an impact on the quality of sound. However, keep in mind that we are not really comparing apples to apples here and there are so many factors that play in the differences including cables, number of drivers and the fact that the JH13s are remolds NOT done by JH.

 

Initially I was using the stock cables from both JH and Rooth. I now am using UE’s homerun cables for the JH13s and a cable made by Nissi (a DIY’er here in Japan) specifically made for the LS8s. I am quite blown away by just how much difference a cable really does make. I will also be demoing the Whiplash Twag in the next few days to see how that sounds with both customs. I have heard mixed review when using the Twag with the LS8s.I think it is worth mentioning just how much of an impact cables have on your customs.

 

The JH 13s are definitely brighter sounding and cold or neutral with the vocals more forward. There is more of a tightness between the instruments which in turn makes the soundstage feel not quite as wide. When listening to the LS8s there is more of a warmth and well balanced overall sound. At first I thought that the it was almost too warm and the bass too overwhelming to the point that the vocals felt more in the background, but over time I have grown accustomed to the sound and in fact the vocals are nicely balanced with the instrument, and I found the warmth to be quite easy on the ears. In short the JH13 more neutral and cold, the LS8s warm with a wider soundstage.

 

The differences between offer me the option of matching the customs with the type of music I am in the mood for. For example, I am finding that the JH13s are great for punk rock – The Clash, Green Day, Nirvana, Supersuckers, Gluecifer.  I am finding I like the LS8s for live music, Jazz, well produced groups like Zeppelin, The Who, Dylan and Soundgarden.

 

One other area I have noticed is that I am using a 5.5 g Imod with ALO Rx amp and either flac or db converted files. There is a difference between FLAC and non-FLAC files, which is a curse I guess because you can really tell especially if it is poorly produced.

As I wrote this, just for the hell of it, I decided to swap cables between the two. The Nissi cable accentuated the sounds even more. The LS8s fuller and richer sound, whereas the JH13s sharper high and mids. I am new to this portable hi-fi world and am continually amazed at these little discoveries.

 

As mentioned previously, the LS8s come in a nicely designed box along with a descent sized semi-hard carrying case useful for briefcases or backpacks, along with a cleaning tool, users manual and a silver business card sized 2-year warranty.

I am writing this in a hotel and do not have access to my frequency response graphs, but will be sure to update this review when I return this weekend.

 

I am very pleased with the purchases and would say with confidence that I would recommend Rooth customs or remolds. The only hitch is it is a Chinese company, the distance for some makes it difficult. In my opinion it is well worth it. I went through High Fi International here in Japan

( http://www.hfi.jp/ ) Most of you are unable to read Japanese so do a google search with that URL then hit "Translate this page" and you can read it English. Tomo is the owner of High Fi and a very good guy to deal with. Great customer service and the turnaround from Rooth is quite fast considering it is China.

 

Also here are is a link from High Fi where they have uploaded recently purchased Rooth customs:

http://picasaweb.google.com/110374946783667587933/RoothPix?feat=directlink#

 

Oh yeah as for price, it really depends upon where you live and the exchange rate, but the LS8s are around $1,000 (USD) and the remolds $120 (USD).

 

Any questions feel free to PM me or post here.

 

Thanks

 


Edited by skoog5600 - 7/31/10 at 5:16am
post #67 of 85

Thanks for the updated review. I was seriously considering the LS8, but the lack of reviews prompted me to wait a while more. Then the JH audio offered a $175 discount on their JH16, so I immediately jumped on it. Plus your description of the remolded Jh13 sound suggests that the JH sound might suit me more.

post #68 of 85
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by koonhua90 View Post

Thanks for the updated review. I was seriously considering the LS8, but the lack of reviews prompted me to wait a while more. Then the JH audio offered a $175 discount on their JH16, so I immediately jumped on it. Plus your description of the remolded Jh13 sound suggests that the JH sound might suit me more.


Yeah that JH deal was hard to beat. Enjoy!

post #69 of 85
Thread Starter 


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by skoog5600 View Post

7/29/10 Updated review complete with new photos (sorry taken with my iphone - see pics at the bottom of this review)

 

First of all, I apologize for the delay in getting up a more comprehensive review of the remolded JH13s and the LS8 customs from Rooth. It’s been a busy couple of weeks here in Tokyo, but I am now on working holiday and have been able to spend a good deal of time listening to both.

 

Let me reiterate the workmanship from Rooth on both the 13 remolds (BLUE) and the new LS8 customs (RED) are flawless. The fit is perfect for both, quick and easy to put in, take out and a good seal.

 

I am finding there is quite a discernible difference between the two and it is a bit different than my initial impressions I had written up on 7/8/10. Also I have been playing around with different cables and that has also had an impact on the quality of sound. However, keep in mind that we are not really comparing apples to apples here and there are so many factors that play in the differences including cables, number of drivers and the fact that the JH13s are remolds NOT done by JH.

 

Initially I was using the stock cables from both JH and Rooth. I now am using UE’s homerun cables for the JH13s and a cable made by Nissi (a DIY’er here in Japan) specifically made for the LS8s. I am quite blown away by just how much difference a cable really does make. I will also be demoing the Whiplash Twag in the next few days to see how that sounds with both customs. I have heard mixed review when using the Twag with the LS8s.I think it is worth mentioning just how much of an impact cables have on your customs.

 

The JH 13s are definitely brighter sounding and cold or neutral with the vocals more forward. There is more of a tightness between the instruments which in turn makes the soundstage feel not quite as wide. When listening to the LS8s there is more of a warmth and well balanced overall sound. At first I thought that the it was almost too warm and the bass too overwhelming to the point that the vocals felt more in the background, but over time I have grown accustomed to the sound and in fact the vocals are nicely balanced with the instrument, and I found the warmth to be quite easy on the ears. In short the JH13 more neutral and cold, the LS8s warm with a wider soundstage.

 

The differences between offer me the option of matching the customs with the type of music I am in the mood for. For example, I am finding that the JH13s are great for punk rock – The Clash, Green Day, Nirvana, Supersuckers, Gluecifer.  I am finding I like the LS8s for live music, Jazz, well produced groups like Zeppelin, The Who, Dylan and Soundgarden.

 

One other area I have noticed is that I am using a 5.5 g Imod with ALO Rx amp and either flac or db converted files. There is a difference between FLAC and non-FLAC files, which is a curse I guess because you can really tell especially if it is poorly produced.

As I wrote this, just for the hell of it, I decided to swap cables between the two. The Nissi cable accentuated the sounds even more. The LS8s fuller and richer sound, whereas the JH13s sharper high and mids. I am new to this portable hi-fi world and am continually amazed at these little discoveries.

 

As mentioned previously, the LS8s come in a nicely designed box along with a descent sized semi-hard carrying case useful for briefcases or backpacks, along with a cleaning tool, users manual and a silver business card sized 2-year warranty.

I am writing this in a hotel and do not have access to my frequency response graphs, but will be sure to update this review when I return this weekend.

 

I am very pleased with the purchases and would say with confidence that I would recommend Rooth customs or remolds. The only hitch is it is a Chinese company, the distance for some makes it difficult. In my opinion it is well worth it. I went through High Fi International here in Japan

( http://www.hfi.jp/ ) Most of you are unable to read Japanese so do a google search with that URL then hit "Translate this page" and you can read it English. Tomo is the owner of High Fi and a very good guy to deal with. Great customer service and the turnaround from Rooth is quite fast considering it is China.

 

Also here are is a link from High Fi where they have uploaded recently purchased Rooth customs:

http://picasaweb.google.com/110374946783667587933/RoothPix?feat=directlink#

 

Oh yeah as for price, it really depends upon where you live and the exchange rate, but the LS8s are around $1,000 (USD) and the remolds $120 (USD).

 

Any questions feel free to PM me or post here.

 

Thanks

 

I have added a link to the photos to go with the review:

http://picasaweb.google.com/108014871605502104253/CustomIEMsCablesImodAndAmp#


 

post #70 of 85

Oh wow didn't know there was a thread on Rooth. I actually have an LS8 being processed for me right now!

But I did not need to go through any Japanese agent.

 

I asked a UM representative to give me the rooth contact information and was given:

rooth@live.cn
 
EDIT: So I guess that confirms they are related...

Edited by Infoseeker - 8/1/10 at 5:56pm
post #71 of 85
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Infoseeker View Post

Oh wow didn't know there was a thread on Rooth. I actually have an LS8 being processed for me right now!

But I did not need to go through any Japanese agent.

 

I asked a UM representative to give me the rooth contact information and was given:

rooth@live.cn
 
EDIT: So I guess that confirms they are related...

Yeah I started it a while ago. I have to say I am very very pleased with the LS8s. I am surprised to hear that UM gave you the info ... but I did hear some of the engineers are former UM employees.


 

post #72 of 85
Thread Starter 
post #73 of 85

Im stuck, wondering if i should buy UM Miracle or Rooth LS8 and hope they are as good as JH13.

I dont wanna buy JH,Westone,ultimate ears since then i have to pay for customs and it is high as 25% ><.

I`m travling to china soon so Rooth or UM is my best pick.

Do you have a chinese web site for buying the Rooth is it any cheaper then the sale?

post #74 of 85

Will be getting the JH16's. Trying to sort something out with Rooth/Japan HiFi for a review and comparison. Hope I can work something out, as I'm sure everyoe is eager to know how they stack up to each other, as well as the Miracle.

post #75 of 85

Anyone else having troubles viewing the album? It says I don't have access to these photos, or they don't exist at the link.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by skoog5600 View Post

8.2.10 - Updated photos and chart - http://picasaweb.google.com/108014871605502104253/CustomIEMsCablesImodAndAmp#

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › HFI (High Fi International) Appreciation and Rooth Impressions Thread - New online company in Japan