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how is audio-gd phoenix different to its c-3mk3?

post #1 of 12
5/12/10 at 7:37pm
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they are pretty much about the same price.

 

it gives me some kind of feeling that phoenix has more features and c-3mk3 has better amping. 

 

is it so? i am very interested to know how different will they sound to amp a headphone.

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post #2 of 12
5/12/10 at 11:00pm

Hello

 

The C-3mk3 wont run headphones but is a better line level preamp than the Phoenix.

 

The Phoenix is a great line level preamp but the C-3mk3 is a dramatic improvement.  Better imaging, detail, decay on notes.

 

Regards

 

Macrog

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post #3 of 12
5/13/10 at 12:26am
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thanks, Macrog

 

i might have to switch to my origin plan of reference 9+HR Buda/CS300X to pair the balanced D7000.

 

any better amps dat's forgiving of bad recording or lossy formats(320kbps mp3)?


Edited by superjohny - 5/13/10 at 5:27am
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post #4 of 12
5/13/10 at 1:09am

Definitely make sure all your music is in FLAC format or you'll be wasting your money. 

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post #5 of 12
5/13/10 at 12:47pm
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Definitely make sure all your music is in FLAC format or you'll be wasting your money. 


X2

 

Peete.

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post #6 of 12
5/14/10 at 1:39pm

Doesnt the phoenix use a newer version of the bpm module? just went to the website, and it seems he did a major update,and there is a new C3, called the end version, its using the v2 module, and is styled more like the phoenix, with the rounded corners.

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post #7 of 12
5/14/10 at 6:37pm

And 2 new "musical" peamps. I wish I had a spare $6000 lying around.

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post #8 of 12
5/14/10 at 11:41pm
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really, just by looking at the back panel, both c3-final or sa-3000 can be used to drive headphones.

 

is it so??

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post #9 of 12
5/15/10 at 4:53pm


 

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Originally Posted by macrog View Post

Hello

 

The C-3mk3 wont run headphones but is a better line level preamp than the Phoenix.

 

The Phoenix is a great line level preamp but the C-3mk3 is a dramatic improvement.  Better imaging, detail, decay on notes.

 

Regards

 

Macrog


Thanks for the info on the C3MkIII ! I had begun to wonder if this preamp wouldn't be a better fit for my ref system although after much modification (Phoenix DIY Max mod) I can't imagine how much better the C3 could be from the Phoenix (when use as a preamp). That being said I'm definitely taking a long hard look at the C3. It would enable me to bump the Phoenix into a dedicated head fi role. One piece of advice if I may be able to suggest or address a weakness in your stated system source. Upgrade to Win7 over XP Pro...the audio subsystem of Vista/Win7 is vastly superior to XP with a very noticeable improvement in SQ. I was shocked by the difference myself. Try it and see what you think (if you can). It's definitely worth the hassle and added expense.

 

Peete.


Edited by Pricklely Peete - 5/15/10 at 9:56pm
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post #10 of 12
5/15/10 at 7:01pm
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audio-gd has just put c3-mk3(and the final version) into headphone amp category.

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post #11 of 12
1/21/11 at 6:53am

So who has done this- bought a C-3 or C-39 and use as a headphone amp? Kingwa confirmed that overall output will be less than Phoenix with stock modules but it may not matter enough.

Anyone have direct experience?

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post #12 of 12
1/25/11 at 6:56pm

Well, I am trying the C-39MK3 with headphone output added to compare to my Phoenix. I really want ACSS preamp output to the C10SE amp which the Phoenix does not have.

I will post impressions. Also trying the NFB-12 for giggles.

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