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post #1 of 44
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Enough for the packaging, the looks, the gold. You find impressions on those everywhere now.

 

Equipment: iPod Classic 160GB, Late 2009 Edition + RAM I-Extreme LOD + HeadRoom Portable Micro Amp (LOW gain, crossfeed OFF, volume at around 11 to 1 o' clock)

 

The first thing I noticed when I inserted them (original large SuperTips) is a plastic crackling. I automatically presumed that it was the diaphragm deforming under changing pressure. I asked here and was told of a phenomenon called 'driver flex', which happens a lot with dynamic IEMs. I can only hope that it is a normal occurrence.

The large SuperTips don't insert that easily at first. Gradually, I learned to breath warm, humid air (or CO2) on the tips before inserting.

 

I tried all the tips supplied and these are the ones that fit:

SuperTips, both small and large; the large triple-flanges; the foam tips.

 

Speaking of isolation, the large SuperTips isolated a bit more than I first expected, but are still not quite up to the MDR-NC60 level. Lower frequencies do go through, however the large SuperTips isolate speech much better than the NC60 does.

I had about the same impression for the smaller SuperTips and the large triple-flanges: less driver flex noise, much more low-frequency isolation than the large SuperTips. Speech isolation is about the same.

Foamies isolate unbelievably. They are also a bit more comfortable than the other tips. These tips isolate about as well as I ever imagined.

 

Now the sound. The large SuperTips provided quite a nice soundstage, wide enough for IEMs I guess, albeit a bit shallow (Audio STAX: when Gunter is 'in front', I cannot feel it - but hey, nor with my DT880, so this may be a source problem). Bass impact is much less than I thought (thank you Monster advertising), however the details are incredible. Depth was undescribable,  I always thought IEMs have muffled sound. Vocals cut though very clearly, but don't exactly 'stand out' like the Burj Dubai (Kalifa)... more like Manhattan Island. Quite to my surprise, I can somewhat 'see' the bow gliding on the strings of a cello, with the strings rippling and shaking off dust. Highs extend very well, though when you're in the extreme-high zone, they do feel stressed (try gunning a Smart to 90MPH).

Both the smaller SuperTips and the triple-flanges provided something that was lacking on the large SuperTips: bass impact that could actually be felt. However, this came at a big cost: the entire frequency band is pushed back, with low freqs standing out more like the pyramids of Giza. Soundstage was narrower, more 'moved forward'. Vocals are a bit too soft (pour water on a sand castle and watch) and the highs are attenuated. Guitars no longer sound crisp and clear.

Foamies: pulled them out after three seconds. Unlistenable. Don't bother.

 

At this price, I believe its main rivals would be the EX700 and the IE8, since dynamics and armatures are very different creatures. It took me to go though some difficulties to obtain this IEM, I believe that they're a keeper. Got them on sale, saved me some money anyway.

 

PS: On large SuperTips, bass impact seems to improve after 10 to 12 minutes. Perhaps the temperature of the ear-canals is softening the oil (I believe the SuperTips are oil-filled, then silicon-sealed) inside the SuperTips to the point that the tips conform better.

post #2 of 44
I don't think you have the actual SuperTips, the actual ones are white foam with a silicone core and tip. Contact Monster and they'll give you the actual SuperTips.
post #3 of 44

@3602, interesting review, i agree with ethan, you have the gel filled super tips,these are not the best, the white foam hybrid super tips are much better.

post #4 of 44
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Originally Posted by ethan961 View Post

I don't think you have the actual SuperTips, the actual ones are white foam with a silicone core and tip. Contact Monster and they'll give you the actual SuperTips.


Not knowing how to contact them, I simply can't get the idea of paying 10 dollars for eartips (read Sony Hybrids), plus the 35 dollar shipping, plus the 25 dollar import tax. No thanks.

post #5 of 44

^ you don't have to pay for the supertips, monster will ship it to you if your MTPG does not have them. All you need is to prove your purchase invoice. Monster would ship it as replacement tips so you won't be charged tax.

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Not knowing how to contact them, I simply can't get the idea of paying 10 dollars for eartips (read Sony Hybrids), plus the 35 dollar shipping, plus the 25 dollar import tax. No thanks.


send an email on here to soundmatters12, he is the in house monster rep and he should be able to help you .

post #7 of 44

I get the same driver flex issue. Is it damaging towards the headphone?

post #8 of 44

Not at all, it's perfectly normal and harmless. It happens to most dynamics.
 

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I get the same driver flex issue. Is it damaging towards the headphone?
 

post #9 of 44
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send an email on here to soundmatters12, he is the in house monster rep and he should be able to help you .


I shot him a PM. Did read a review here a while ago, about that new white foam eartips, right?

Also, is it possible to get one of those 'revolver eartip holders' that come with the Copper?

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That doesn't come with the Gold?

Well, looking at mine it's just a simple piece of silicone, and probably wouldn't cost them much at all to make, so I would ask them about it. My guess is that they would, but if it's something that they intended to help differentiate between the Copper and Gold, maybe not.

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I shot him a PM. Did read a review here a while ago, about that new white foam eartips, right?

Also, is it possible to get one of those 'revolver eartip holders' that come with the Copper?

post #11 of 44
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That doesn't come with the Gold?

Well, looking at mine it's just a simple piece of silicone, and probably wouldn't cost them much at all to make, so I would ask them about it. My guess is that they would, but if it's something that they intended to help differentiate between the Copper and Gold, maybe not.


 

They say that the Copper is more neutral than the Gold. Looking at HeadRoom graphs (lookie here), the Copper has tuned-up mids and highs, not tuned-down lows as I expected. The Gold sounds balanced enough for me with a touch of warmth and lushness, something totally different from the dry-bones DT880.

Also that wheel-thing is silicone? I thought cardboard!
 

post #12 of 44

when soundmatters12 sent me my tips he sent me the holder and the set of white tips and the set of gel tips ,but then again i have the coppers and the golds, but he may well send you the holder if you ask him ,he is a great guy.
 

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Originally Posted by 3602 View Post




I shot him a PM. Did read a review here a while ago, about that new white foam eartips, right?

Also, is it possible to get one of those 'revolver eartip holders' that come with the Copper?

post #13 of 44

silicone, its pretty handy too.  

post #14 of 44

By differentiate, I meant like, the average Joe in a store would see the one and the other and would have in their head that the Coppers are worth more, but without knowing the sound differences, one would have to go by looks and included accessories. More accessories would help cement in the customer's mind that that model is worth more. That is, if Monster intended to do that, I have no idea.

 

As for the thing itself, it is silicone. It would have to be in order to expand with the different sized tips that are put in whatever slot, as each slot is the same size.

In all, it's nice and it's effective, but I'm fine with just using the plastic bag as once I find my favourite tips, I never change them. Perhaps if you're always letting someone else try them or you like to change your tips often it would be handy for having different tips at hand.


Edited by ethan961 - 5/8/10 at 8:27pm
post #15 of 44
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So you guys prefer the foam SuperTips over the gel ones, eh? Could you describe the new ones (fit, comfort, isolation and sound)? Thanks.

And just out of curiosity: which case (pouch) do you guys use?

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