Alright, second round of "cabling testing" :
"I NEEDED to learn something here so I indulged myself!
System: Krell/Tannoy Kingdom/Hovland/Wadia
Listening room - Yeah olde living room, 6m x 5m.
1) Transparent Reference Ultra XL ($12000) - Dont ask how much I paid for it.... a bargain of a lifetime!
2) Van Den Hul Revelations - $2400 new, terminated
3) QED Anniversary Silver XT - R80/m ($9/m on internet)
Picked 4 songs I believe to be very well recorded.
A lady that has NO hi-fi, iPod and MP3 is life - my daughter (25) - and NO she NEVER agrees with me (A)
A friend that has very decisive opinions about sounds/music he likes (B) and unbeliever (in cables)
And me....curious to find something new and that I like! (C) - NOT part of the test
1st test. Does swapping the cables make an audible difference ? (Im excluded here, and I swap/or don't swap and walk out of the room - some members believe I INFLUENCE the listeners )....
6/7 times (B) heard a difference,
5/8 times (A) heard a difference between the Transparent and QED
2nd test. Can you identify your preferred cable ?
3/3 times (B) did pick up his preferred sound, 3/4 times he identified the crap cable (his words) and did not like it!. (once I kept the QED and ACTED like swapping them - he commented it sounded the same). (7 tests)
3/5 times (A) did pick a cable she preferred, she admitted once the sound was the same but liked it (I once faked the swapping of her preferred cable). She also 2/3 times didnt like the sound (8 tests)
3rd test: Was there a preference ? YES BOTH liked the Transparent Reference.
Now I know the transparent reference has all kinds of networks in its black box, maybe that helps a lot.
The next rant is MY experience. I'm NOT Stereophile, AVSA etc.
(If you have your own opinion and don't care what others say/think, please skip this part )
The QED on its own is a fine cable. But none of us liked it. It didn't excite. BUT this is the thing. If the other two cables weren't used you will NOT find something amiss!
Yello - Of course I/m lying - is ultra fast and open. The bass incredibly - The VdH more sweeter. The QED sounds incomplete, not dull, but...damn for lack of word like old, tired speakers
Flykiller - Yeah the 18" now kicks you off the couch. Kick, not rumble or push. The Krell sings. The VdH is definitely less sharp in sub/bass/lower mids
Elisiane - The way this woman sings - WOW! "Lean down on me".... you have to hear it. Strange all 3 sounds ok here....
Janis Ian - Breaking Silence - The Transparent is way better here... the QED again bit dull
Three Blind Mice - Midnight Sugar - You want to hear a piano in FORCE ? Amazing
Vinyl - Richie Valens - BETTER than CD - O sh..it Im going to be
I have a nice thick 5mm+ twinflex here. I will put on connectors... and test.... and if anyone cares post a little feedback
WHAT DID I(ME) LEARN ?
It is NOT night and day - except for two songs that were quite surprising.
Is the most expensive one always the best ? No I think the VdH sounds excellent... but here the Transparent was the best
One song was almost the same through all 3 ?! Recording bandwidth ? CD ? Less instruments ?
Is the $12000 cable 6x better than the $2000 cable ? NEVER!!
Is the $12k worth it ? NO - unless you swim in $$
Should the QED cost $9/m ? Yes... its not worth more. I will use it in my HC or old retro hifi stuff
I paid R2000 for the VdH quite a while ago- its WORTH every cent.... you never have to worry about this cable
Does speaker cable make the same difference than interconnects ? Yes about the same
Does system synergy/resolution make it easier the differentiate ? I think so, Jazzy agrees? Some cable in transit to be tested in other systems... lets hear
Did the people convince THEMSELVES that cables made a difference ? YES but I will let them speak for themselves"
What do you guys think of this evidence? Surely it's concrete? ; - )
Edited by Yahzi - 12/29/12 at 11:08pm