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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post

yeah i have to say i was very surprised at how little treble there was, i just really dont get what they have that 2nd driver doing


Before we continue, there is a slight chance that mark is getting that driver flex issue that I got when I started out with the DDMs. Mark, if you try putting your fingers on the port opening on the side of the DDMs, and put the DDM's in your ear while they are playing music, plunging them in and out a few times, you might hear a crinkle and one of the drivers might 'pop' back in - suddenly there will be more treble.

 

It's unlikely that's the problem, but there's a slight chance that may be why you loathe them so much - because the treble driver isn't even working. XD

 

If not, then I can share my own experience with the DDMs... when I first got them I also felt a little puzzled at how little treble they had. Over time though, I actually realised the DDMs had just as much treble energy and detail as some of my other IEMs, it just didn't spring out in the mix. Despite it all, if you listen to any well mastered slow, intimate acoustic song, you really should be hearing something magical!

 

For instance, last night I got onto this track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4izoTTkhcw Ghostly vocals, so much weight and shape on the piano notes. It's chilling.

 

Large aperture tips help a heap as well. Anyway, that's my ideas on it.

post #737 of 864

@ Zenpuc and Ericp10

DDM might seem too bassy for those individuals who are used to treble oriented IEMs, for instance my wife can not accept DDM after she heard the e-Q7.

She says  there is just too much bass". She simply does not like lows in her music.

Not surprised at all some of us dislike DDM sound sig. The reason why we have not read many opinions which contradict most of us in this particular thread yet is because audiophiles who know what they want to hear will simply stay away from DDM or similar phones such is IE8,  taking into consideration  they read and compared  the multiple threads referring to DDMs.
 

@ mark2410, just out of curiosity  is that you on the picture (with the glasses) That is a really happy face you have there

Considering you live in Edinburgh, I was there once and the whole time I was there I only saw a shadow of a son light for split second. I am wondering if the weather patterns affect the way we perceive music waves and hear the bass, mids and treble?

any comments?

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Originally Posted by yello131 View Post

 

@ mark2410, just out of curiosity  is that you on the picture (with the glasses) That is a really happy face you have there

Considering you live in Edinburgh, I was there once and the whole time I was there I only saw a shadow of a son light for split second. I am wondering if the weather patterns affect the way we perceive music waves and hear the bass, mids and treble?

any comments?


Haha, I thought you were going to say that he must have permanent seasonal affective disorder  and thus it was very strange why he had a smile. :D

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Originally Posted by soozieq View Post




Our markypoo is a riddle in a piddle in a griddle, that's for sure. I was convinced he wouldn't like the JVC FX500's. Most owners (me too) heard them as bass-oriented with recessed mids and a very edgy/sharp treble, everything he dislikes in a sound signature... and yet he really liked them! But that's only because he seemed to hear the total opposite of what most owners heard, or he'd have hated them, I'm sure.

 

Hello mark


yes i didnt think id like the FX500 but it turned out i did, its bass didnt abuse like the ddms do.

 

 

 

 

oh and to "any comments?" seeing as someone helpfully quoted you.  Mr colour, you sir are a posterior.  to this day the only person i have found so objectionable on the internet that i actually blocked seeing their comments.

 

edited to make more clear as to whom it was i was expressing disdain


Edited by mark2410 - 9/3/10 at 3:12pm
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yes i didnt think id like the FX500 but it turned out i did, its bass didnt abuse like the ddms do.


  This comment leads me to believe that you simply didn't find the proper flange to use with the ddm for your ears (i can't blame you though). The treble is always a little recessed no matter what you do, but the bass can be trimmed down to the point it becomes thin. In order to achieve that though you need flanges that have a long sound pipe, that go in very deep inside the ear and that don't seal completely. The obvious problem is that when the seal isn't good the phones slip off when you move around.

 

  I solved this problem by using some audio technica small size flanges, that have a long pipe but manage to stay inside my ear and offer deep insertion. Right now the bass quantity is just a little more than that of the ath-ckm70 which is by no means a basshead iem (rather bright to neutral i'd say).

 

  OT but Edinburgh is certainly high on my list of places to visit. A close friend of mine lived there for two years and only had good things to say about the place and the people. My sister has also visited there and loved it to death. The Parthenon replica also made an impression on her (my friend was more interested in the excellent local beer).

 

  As for the personal comments, whether they are warranted or not, i feel that they don't belong here and they do detract from the conversation. Please guys, no offence but keep your cool.


Edited by SkiesOfAzel - 9/3/10 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post


oh and to "any comments?" seeing as someone helpfully quoted you.  you sir are an arse.  to this day the only person i have found so objectionable on the internet that i actually blocked seeing their comments.


Well, it's a good thing for your bodily parts that I knew the above wasn't meant for me.. but it does read like that!

 


 


Edited by soozieq - 9/3/10 at 2:58pm
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I'd agree with the other suggestions Mark, it's not actually a great idea to be trying to get a perfect seal with these. I used Sony hybrids with them for a while, since they were most comfortable, but combined with their relatively small aperture and softness it did lead to a bit of bass bloat. The most recommended tips for these tend to be tips with apertures that are no smaller than the actual nozzle themselves - for instance, UE single flanges. I'm using some tip from god knows what, its either a Audio Technica tip or one of the original tips, I don't get a vacuum seal feeling like I do with the hybrids, and to me the bass isn't oppressive. Sure, they are always going to have to have more bass than treble, but I guess we're all hoping that you can appreciate what they offer especially on certain tracks. If not though, to each their own :) I have a friend who finds my DDMs too warm for his taste for example, and much prefers my RE0's. His favourite genre of music is metal, which is probably too fast even for the DDMs.

 

On a related note, looking at the Radius, the Monster Turbines and now the new insanely priced Sony EX1000's (really insanely mind you... at that price why not a custom?) it seems like dynamics are entering their golden age. I'd hate to see BA's disappear though - I hate seeing 'old but good' technologies get pushed aside, like plasma TV's for instance.


Edited by a_recording - 9/3/10 at 6:40pm
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I wanna see pictures of the ears of these Radius guys..

the TWF21 is just ridiculous. wtf.

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Originally Posted by rymd View Post

I wanna see pictures of the ears of these Radius guys..

the TWF21 is just ridiculous. wtf.


Here's a picture:

 

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Works nicely with the armour too :D

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Originally Posted by rymd View Post

I wanna see pictures of the ears of these Radius guys..

the TWF21 is just ridiculous. wtf.


I was going to wait until my review to post any pictures but here you go although I might take some better pictures if I get around to it.

 

IMG_1398.jpgIMG_1401.jpg

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front size pics of the ears will be nice.

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I'll let someone else do that :P Those are good enough for me :)

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@ rawster: wear a face mask like "Zoro" if ur too shy show ur mug! lol  j/k  but i agree full frontal pics! :)

-I need some kind of entertainment while i wait for my DDM's to come in the mail.

On Tips:

I kind of agree on deep insertion tips to tame Bass. I just got Monster triple flanges today.. and put them on the Bass bloaty,sssibilant XEAR TD100's.

The Bass is much more controlled now, and the much present sssibilance is tamed as well. They "Do" go in quite deep tho.... but... the reward is Great.

 

great thread!


Edited by vpsporb - 9/3/10 at 9:23pm
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or I can go clark kent and just put on glasses which magically makes me a completely different person :) I took those pics around a week ago when I first got the DDM and won't really take more unless I find that my other pics of them are completely horrible.

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X2 on the Zorro thing
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