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post #31 of 41
5/4/10 at 4:45am
"A new SR60 is really uncomfortable, you know, "bloody" during first time, however after the first time, it goes smooth, same with SR60." This makes no sense? I think you meant to put K701 in there instead of the SR60 again.
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post #32 of 41
5/4/10 at 4:48am
I think it's the headband more than the pads, once it has bent perfectly to the exact curve of your head and the clamp is gone, both comfies and flats are fine comfort wise. Flats foam is still a bit abrasive though, although for my tastes they are far superior SQ wise.

The one Grado pad I find it extremely hard to bear for more than a single album are bowl pads, ironically these are the ones packaged with the majority of headphones.

I really think John Grado should reintroduce flats, or make a new breed of flats with a softer foam topper and a velour skin. That would give Grados a huge sales boost I think, as a lot of people get put off by the comfort thing and never get to appreciate the blindingly good SQ of his phones!
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post #33 of 41
5/4/10 at 4:50am
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Originally Posted by Bilavideo View Post
Comfies don't hold a candle to flats. Now, watch. Somebody will come out of the woodwork to tell me I'm full of poo. Oh well. But man, I gotta tell you, the fit and performance of flats really does leave comfies in the dust. The pictures don't really do justice to their differences. The flats are actually quite evenly flat. They're not excessively wide. They don't cover the hole. They are firm rather than spongey, and the difference in bass is serious.
Couldn't agree more.
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post #34 of 41
5/4/10 at 10:46am
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Flats and comfies are two different things.
Ah, OK. Thanks for the clarification! Now I see where the "quarter mod" on the comfies comes from.

Yes, the comfies are very wide in diameter. There is a lot of excess that sticks out along the perimeter of the cup. I can see where limiting that, as the flats appear to do, can make a difference. I find that the edges of the pads rub against the chair if I put my head back. Forget about lying on a pillow.

It all depends on the shape of your ears. The wider pad will distribute the pressure of the headband more and should relieve the pressure a bit. Conversely, a narrower pad will focus the pressure on a smaller point and increase the pressure. If the excess of the comfies are just hanging over your ear and possibly pressing against your head, then it's a waste and flats would work just as well and potentially be better.

Yeah, it's a bummer that Grados suffer comfort issues, but at least there are options to pursue. And with the SQ of the Grados, I think the pursuit is worthwhile.
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post #35 of 41
5/4/10 at 10:49am
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Originally Posted by Bilavideo View Post
Comfies don't hold a candle to flats. ... But man, I gotta tell you, the fit and performance of flats really does leave comfies in the dust.
Out of curiosity, do you know how comfies that have a hole cut in the middle (the "quarter mod") compare to the flats?
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post #36 of 41
5/4/10 at 11:41am
Why suffer through months of torture while waiting for the headband to gradually relax? Just bend the damn thing right out of the box, until there's JUST barely enough pressure to keep the cans from falling off your head. Grados are not the kind of design that depends on pressure for good bass response so there's no reason for them to be tighter than that.

Once you do that, even bowls aren't particularly uncomfortable, especially if you wear them the way I have found to work best: low and forward so that the top and back edges of the pad align with the edges of your ears. That keeps the transducer housings off your ears and angles them slightly, improving comfort and soundstage and taming the treble a bit.
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post #37 of 41
5/4/10 at 12:01pm
supersleuth,
The headband on all my Grados is bent to perfection for my head, but bowls still start to grate me after an hour tops. I do like the sound of them with my MS2i from time to time, but on the whole much prefer flats anyway so it's no big deal.
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post #38 of 41
5/4/10 at 12:09pm
EddieE- Yeah, that's a personal thing (as is the question of which pads sound best- obviously the bowls do it for me, I like their airier sound), my ears may be less sensitive than some. But regardless of pads used, it never ceases to amaze me how many people don't seem to realize how easy it is to bend the headband to make the cans as loose-fitting as you could possibly want, for a huge gain in comfort at no cost at all to sound.
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post #39 of 41
5/5/10 at 9:56pm

As someone with glasses, these headphones are excruciating. The only method that i came to rely on is to put the headphones on, then hang the glasses on top of the phones instead of my ears. I get weird looks when people come into my room, but I don't mind.

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post #40 of 41
5/6/10 at 5:43am

I like the comfies on my SR60i's just fine. The only comfort issue I have is the lack of padding in the headband, as I keep my hair buzzed pretty short. I do have to adjust my glasses a little bit after putting the SR60i's on, but after that, I can wear them for hours, as long as I move the headband a little bit every once in a while....an inch forward ,then a little later an inch backward.

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post #41 of 41
5/8/10 at 3:35am
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Originally Posted by EddieE View Post

I really think John Grado should reintroduce flats, or make a new breed of flats with a softer foam topper and a velour skin. That would give Grados a huge sales boost I think, as a lot of people get put off by the comfort thing and never get to appreciate the blindingly good SQ of his phones!


The only problem with softer pads is that the bass of the flats might lessen. Has anyone noticed that quarter modded comfies are way less bassy than flats? I think it is because of the distance of your ears from the drivers with the thicker yet softer pads of the comfies that make them less bassy than the hard and durable flats.

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