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  Nevertheless, I would like to thank you all for allowing this to be possible. For it is your bodies that I have climbed over and kicked aside along the way in my relentless assault upon this personal summit, and I am indebted to you for your forbearance and yes, even your scorn.

 


 

haha,this sentence just made my entire week not day

congrates,you worked hard for it

 

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Thank you and you are most welcome.

 

PS I've edited my speech, could you please do likewise with the quote for the record? I'd very much appreciate it because I prefer the amended version.
 


I'm afraid it'd be dishonest of me to edit your post as that would entail editing mine. You see my reply was in part prompted by the very fact that you'd chosen to save a key part of your wonderful speech, ie myself, for the last sentence. I was more than honoured. God, I'm blushing again as I type.

I hope you're not the nagging type and insist I change it.

I trust you'll understand.

-Ch P

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Well done, whoever you are.

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So I have read about people having eargasms around here. I kinda laughed it off and really wish I had that album that could do that for me. Well, today at work while the network was down I took a little journey with Sunchase and his Static Nitro album i picked up a few weeks ago and had not got around to hearing it. Holy S#$%. Im not even into minimal type music but this album blew me away. These SM3s are ridiculous. Ok carry on.

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hands schwallman a cigarette. 

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Lol I have had a few of those moment to :-)

Well I hate to say but these darn things a ruining my IEM listening pleasure...
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I'm afraid it'd be dishonest of me to edit your post as that would entail editing mine. You see my reply was in part prompted by the very fact that you'd chosen to save a key part of your wonderful speech, ie myself, for the last sentence. I was more than honoured. God, I'm blushing again as I type.

I hope you're not the nagging type and insist I change it.

I trust you'll understand.

-Ch P

 

I don't think that it is dishonest given that I am the author of the post and have already edited it myself. I have merely asked if you would be kind enough to indulge me by doing the same. Still, I understand your reluctance to oblige and the reason behind it, and I respect this. Modesty and ethics forbids you of course, but it would be my pleasure to make your presence in my post even more prominent. I know how fond you are of bold type. :-)
 


Edited by iponderous - 7/12/10 at 5:52pm
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hands schwallman a cigarette. 






Thanks for the smoke. Bennyboy I think it was you that was talking about the massive attack album. You would probably dig the sunchase album.
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Those look quite nice @ ElWappo!! Can't wait to read your A/B comparison of these and the stock SM3. I hope they surpass the stock version. If so, I may be on my way to customs.
 


As promised, I spent several hours today A/B'ing my customized SM3's and a stock pair purchased at the same time. Much like the last time I found it challenging to detect any differences, but I focused on comparing just a few songs using just one DAP (iPhone 3GS, volume was not touched).

 

From what I can tell, as well as the owner of the stock SM3's, we both agreed the soundstage is definitely wider on the customized version, and perhaps a tiny amount taller, with slightly better separation between instruments. Perhaps this is due to the dual bore that Fisher / InEarz chose. We both also agreed that the bass was more extended, with a more natural sounding trailing edge (decay?). 

 

We also noticed there is a slightly recessed upper treble, as opposed to rolled off. As an example, we both noticed this on a lossless live version of Hotel California off The Eagles Hell Freezes Over album, around 3:17-3:40 or so. The acoustic guitar in the background is slightly quieter on the customized SM3 than on the stock SM3's, but the details are all still there so everything is still resolving. I wouldn't describe it as less bright, as tonality has not changed, rather just the volume is slightly lower.

 

In summary, I can say that after getting a new set of impressions from a different audiologist and subsequently having Fisher completely remake these customized SM3's, I have become very happy with the consistent fit. It is that consistency that makes for highly repeatable sound quality... If nothing else this frees me from feeling compelled to fuss with the universal tips to try to get them in my ears 'just so', as now I have the exact same sound every time I insert these in my ears.

 

Someone asked about the dual sound bores, and indeed that is what Fisher has chosen. From my discussions with Kaysen, as well as my own observation, it appears that the SM3 starts off as a dual bore, with the large driver having one bore and the two smaller drivers having the other bore, after which they apparently join near the base of the nozzle. Fisher said that when they see this they have had the best results with simply keeping the two bores separate.

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Wow! Wonderful impression ElWappo. So, this makes me feel that my SM3 will this direction after the warranty has worn off and the original casings no longer serve my needs. I will give the SM3 a new life! This will definitely be the most economical road to customs. Thanks again for the comparison impressions.
 

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As promised, I spent several hours today A/B'ing my customized SM3's and a stock pair purchased at the same time. Much like the last time I found it challenging to detect any differences, but I focused on comparing just a few songs using just one DAP (iPhone 3GS, volume was not touched).

 

From what I can tell, as well as the owner of the stock SM3's, we both agreed the soundstage is definitely wider on the customized version, and perhaps a tiny amount taller, with slightly better separation between instruments. Perhaps this is due to the dual bore that Fisher / InEarz chose. We both also agreed that the bass was more extended, with a more natural sounding trailing edge (decay?). 

 

We also noticed there is a slightly recessed upper treble, as opposed to rolled off. As an example, we both noticed this on a lossless live version of Hotel California off The Eagles Hell Freezes Over album, around 3:17-3:40 or so. The acoustic guitar in the background is slightly quieter on the customized SM3 than on the stock SM3's, but the details are all still there so everything is still resolving. I wouldn't describe it as less bright, as tonality has not changed, rather just the volume is slightly lower.

 

In summary, I can say that after getting a new set of impressions from a different audiologist and subsequently having Fisher completely remake these customized SM3's, I have become very happy with the consistent fit. It is that consistency that makes for highly repeatable sound quality... If nothing else this frees me from feeling compelled to fuss with the universal tips to try to get them in my ears 'just so', as now I have the exact same sound every time I insert these in my ears.

 

Someone asked about the dual sound bores, and indeed that is what Fisher has chosen. From my discussions with Kaysen, as well as my own observation, it appears that the SM3 starts off as a dual bore, with the large driver having one bore and the two smaller drivers having the other bore, after which they apparently join near the base of the nozzle. Fisher said that when they see this they have had the best results with simply keeping the two bores separate.

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Typically for me when I have tips that are inserted more deeply it does a couple things. It lowers the treble focus, increases bass (usually quantity and impact) and it increases sound stage. I think that's what them becoming customs basically did for you.

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After all the A/B'ing I've done today, I was delighted to come home and A/B some more, this time with a new amp that arrived today. I have read the comments about the SM3 not really needing an amp due to their very high sensitivity, so I wasn't expected much, if any improvement. Overall, I can detect some, but not much improvement, so I was neither disappointed nor thrilled. Granted, the amp has not broken in at all, nor have I used it in Balanced mode, let alone paired it with its matching Balanced DAC...

 

Interestingly the first time I really appreciated the amp over the stock iPhone 3GS and iPad was with the following:

p7120019o.jpg

 

I plan on doing some burn-in and much more A/B'ing, but as of right now I'd have to agree with the comments about an amp alone not adding "a lot" of value, at least by itself. Of course, I'm very hopeful that feeding it with a iBasso's upcoming Balanced DAC and cabling it with their Westone / UE compatible Balanced cables will add more value (as well as more $)...  

 

Hey! Now I can finally say, like so many Headphoneus Supremus' before me: "Sorry for my wallet!"

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@eric: or it could ruin your wallet :) It could be a gateway to other bigger and more expensive customs :P

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

Wow! Wonderful impression ElWappo. So, this makes me feel that my SM3 will this direction after the warranty has worn off and the original casings no longer serve my needs. I will give the SM3 a new life! This will definitely be the most economical road to customs. Thanks again for the comparison impressions.
 


It was my pleasure. Or rather, it was the least I could do to give back to this community that steered me to the Nuforce NE-7M's 2 years ago, and the SM3 more recently :)

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Originally Posted by rawrster View Post

Typically for me when I have tips that are inserted more deeply it does a couple things. It lowers the treble focus, increases bass (usually quantity and impact) and it increases sound stage. I think that's what them becoming customs basically did for you.

 

Ah, exactly! And that jives with the differences in this latest custom SM3 incarnation (as opposed to the first), since these have been remolded against a much longer / deeper set of impressions... I'm glad you said that, as it really confirms for me that I'm not imagining the differences I heard. Hours of A/B'ing can drive one a bit batty, methinks ;)
 


Edited by ElWappo - 7/12/10 at 9:07pm
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It's a gateway to destruction....

 

after getting custom tips, the fit became so good for me, but it isn't perfect yet, due to the slightly edgy shape of the casing. I have been thinking of getting custom earphones since then...perhaps if my sm3 ever breaks I will remold it. But it will be wasting the money spent on the tips.

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