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post #196 of 2831
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Originally Posted by average_joe View Post

OK, I tried the smallest tips, and unless I am supposed to listen to the FX700 without a seal and almost no bass, it doesn't work for me.  Regardless, the space is still not as 3D, nor as wide, nor as realistic sounding.  Not saying the FX700 is bad (as I have repeatedly stated) and many on here may prefer the non accurate 'fun' sound of the FX700 (although the SM3 is fun when the song is).  Restating...the SM3 has the most true to life, accurate music presentation of any IEM I have ever heard!  But alas, this is the SM3 thread, not the FX700 thread, nor the FX700 vs. SM3 thread.  If you would like to continue this, please post your thoughts/questions in the FX700 thread or a new thread, thank you :)

 

 

 

Wow, such conditions for posting in your thread, joe. So you don't think it's helpful for other potential SM3 buyers to know how they relate to other earphones, especially as the JVC is in your top tier list? You've made some helpful comparisons yourself, surely the more the better.
 

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Originally Posted by koonhua90 View Post

Can any owner of SM3 kindly provide some size of the nozzle? thanks in advance!

 

after owning a few in ears, i found out that my ear canals are extremely sensitive to anything inserted there...

 

I edited my #192 post after seeing your #191 post. Your post appeared after I submitted my #192 post
 

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Originally Posted by KLS View Post


It took around 8 days for them to arrive Japan
 


I think the red and blue thing is some kind of insulator or protector, which act as left/right indicator too.
 

EDIT: I don't think they have anything to do with the crossover or drivers. The size of the nozzle is similar to those of Westones, they accept T-100 comply tips.


EDIT again: To put it in figure, the diameter of the nozzle is around 3mm.
 


Edited by KLS - 5/9/10 at 1:14pm
post #198 of 2831

Thanks a lot for your reply, KLS! I checked comply website, seems that etymotic HF5 also uses T-100 tips, which means most likely they will fit, which is good news.

 

I just measured too, HF5 has ~3mm nozzle. After the open can FX, perhaps I should go for something closed that gives better isolation. Hopefully the isolation will be as good/better than the Etymotic that I have.


Edited by koonhua90 - 5/9/10 at 1:20pm
post #199 of 2831

 

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Originally Posted by KLS View Post

There is a blue 'rubberish' thing inside the left housing and red in the right.

 

 

Excellent, your photo and explanation is perfect. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by koonhua90 View Post

Thanks a lot for your reply, KLS! I checked comply website, seems that etymotic HF5 also uses T-100 tips, which means most likely they will fit, which is good news.

 

I just measured too, HF5 has ~3mm nozzle. After the open can FX, perhaps I should go for something closed that gives better isolation. Hopefully the isolation will be as good/better than the Etymotic that I have.


I have some Shure triple flange (which seems to me the same to the Ety's), I tried on them but don't really like them. Not that the triple flanges mess up the sound, but I can't get a good fit with them.

 

I have a pair of IE8 (just using the stock medium silicone tips on them), SM3 with stock foam tips offer better isolation than IE8.

 

Somebody here just couldn't resist the tempation
 

post #201 of 2831

comply tips are probably the worst tips i have ever used on iems.it is extremly comfortable and cause no itching at all but the fact that they ruin from the third or forth wear is dissapointing.when i first tried them,they isolated superbly and very effecient thats why i took them outside,but then after only a couple of wear,they became mediacore in terms of isolation and became very soft especially if you took them out in a sunny day and sweat a bit.

shure olives are by far the best tips and doesnt shrink or become so porous.

comply tips are ripp off!

post #202 of 2831
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Originally Posted by KLS View Post

 


I have some Shure triple flange (which seems to me the same to the Ety's), I tried on them but don't really like them. Not that the triple flanges mess up the sound, but I can't get a good fit with them.

 

I have a pair of IE8 (just using the stock medium silicone tips on them), SM3 with stock foam tips offer better isolation than IE8.

 

Somebody here just couldn't resist the tempation
 

 

Instead of calling it temptation, I'd rather call it a pursuit. 

 

It'll be harder to sell my IE8 now, since I just managed to find the firmware update for my samsung yp-z5. With the right eq coupled with max bass setting, IE8's mid bass hump disappears, and it's sounding pretty sweet right now.

 

What I hope is that some time later some retailers in US will carry the SM3, so it will be much easier to get them.
 


Edited by koonhua90 - 5/9/10 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by midoo1990 View Post

comply tips are probably the worst tips i have ever used on iems.it is extremly comfortable and cause no itching at all but the fact that they ruin from the third or forth wear is dissapointing.when i first tried them,they isolated superbly and very effecient thats why i took them outside,but then after only a couple of wear,they became mediacore in terms of isolation and became very soft especially if you took them out in a sunny day and sweat a bit.

shure olives are by far the best tips and doesnt shrink or become so porous.

comply tips are ripp off!


I have to agree one have to take extra care with the comply tips if you want them to last longer. I clean my ear canals with wet q-tips before I insert the foam tips into my ears. So even though I am using mine for 2 months and they are becoming soft now, they are still as clean as new
 

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Originally Posted by koonhua90 View Post

 

Instead of calling it temptation, I'd rather call it a pursuit. 

 

It'll be harder to sell my IE8 now, since I just managed to find the firmware update for my samsung yp-z5. With the right eq coupled with max bass setting, IE8's mid bass hump disappears, and it's sounding pretty sweet right now.

 

What I hope is that some time later some retailers in US will carry the SM3, so it will be much easier to get them.
 

 

For the sake of your wallet, I suggest at least wait until the x-jays to be released  Though I am very satisfied with my SM3 now, I couldn't help but have my eyes on the x-jays.

 

And there are the Radius and Fischer Audio...

 


Edited by KLS - 5/9/10 at 1:52pm
post #204 of 2831

Well, I am holding off any further purchase until I get my pico slim and the sflo2, which might not be so soon in the foreseeable few weeks...

 

Besides, I think the x-jays will still take quite some time before it's even on retail, so my wallet is safe for now  

post #205 of 2831
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Originally Posted by shigzeo View Post

I think those are the triple crossover units. I could be wrong, but they look a hell of a lot like crossover boards fixed by a bit of insulation!


yes, they are the crossover units.

post #206 of 2831

@KLS: that's pretty much what I'm doing. I did buy another earphone but that should take a while but it wasn't a big hit on the wallet so not too bad. If anything I'll sell it if it isn't what I want. I think the SM3 would be quite a gamble for me at such a high cost so I think I'll stay away from it unless some amazing deal pops up :)

post #207 of 2831

Joe buddy, am I misreading something? You don't want other tips to be mentioned in this thread if it's not the SM3?  No one can ask how the SM3 compares to another IEM in this thread, or give their view on how the sound might compare  (if they haven't heard the SM3) based on views given here? I hope I'm I'm misunderstanding this because you have given views on other IEM threads not pertaining to that particular thread. Just seemed like you came down harsh on koonhua, and I feel bad about it because I suggested that he perhaps tell how the smaller tips enhances the FX700 (the small JVC tips does decrease the bass, but the small Monster hybrid supertips  doesn't).  Don't want anyone getting chewed out because of me. And it wasn't that anyone is trying to not make you like the SM3 better as you do, but we just thought you might not be getting full performance out of the FX700, as we try different tips too, but kind of discovered this extra micro details push with the smaller tips. So if you didn't get annoyed buddy, get annoyed with me and not koonhua. But I hope koonhua, Chris and I are reading this wrong somehow. Just doesn't seem like you, and I don't ever recall anyone else telling someone to post on a different thread buddy. This is suppose to be forum that exchanges ideas and knowledge so I thought? Happy listening. 

post #208 of 2831

hmm. curious for a comparison with the monsters turbines(copper/MDs) that was never inserted hehe- though it seems like they're already a step behind the FX-700/SM3s :D

 

and just for clarification: these are BAs right?

post #209 of 2831

Well, thanks for speaking up, Ericp10. And @ Joe, if you were offended in anyway for my questions in the 2 thread, then I apologize for that. I am sure you had tried out all the tips, but for me and Ericp10, it made quite a difference, so I just wanted to see if you hear any difference. It was just out of kind intention to see if you or any other owners can get any improvement, thus maximizing the performance.

No intention of hijacking thread, or making an attack to the SM3.

 

Cheers 

post #210 of 2831
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Originally Posted by EphemeralHope View Post

hmm. curious for a comparison with the monsters turbines(copper/MDs) that was never inserted hehe- though it seems like they're already a step behind the FX-700/SM3s :D

 

and just for clarification: these are BAs right?


YES, The SM3 are BA......I would imagine that Joe has not had time to Finalize his thoughts comparing the SM3 to the MD's/Coppers, I can't really speak for Joe, I'm sure he will reveal his thoughts soon enough, he does have an opinion though.
 

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