I could agree with this - they're quite sensitive, and super-duper high gain is not a "good" thing IME.
Hey everyone, I stumbled onto these headphones today and I was wondering if anyone has ever compared them to the HifiMan HE-400s for electronic music? I'm reading that these are superb but some things concern me.
First, some are comparing these to Grados and I owned a pair of SR60is and I really did not like the sound at all. They were harsh and lacked a lot in terms of depth and layering. So how do these differ? Are they completely different? Or are they the same as most Grados?
Secondly, how do these stack up to headphones like the LCD-2s and HD650s and HD800s?
No idea about the HE-400 (the weight of modern planar magnetics turns me off entirely), but I can certainly answer #1 and take a stab at #2:
1. I can understand the comparison to Grados, but they aren't the same thing by a mile. Firstly, remember that nothing but a Grado will sound like a Grado. Second, and more to the question, the W1000X are smoother and airier, and have a wider overall presentation. They're similar-ish in terms of having somewhat touched up treble and bass, but that's about where the similarities end - both are bright, but the treble on the Grados (and this is all based on the RS-1 btw), is more forward and punchier, while the W1000X is much smoother and somewhat less forceful. The mids on the W1000X are more forward and have more coloration to them, and the bass is probably heavier overall (they are closed, after all). So if you dislike a bright presentation for any reason, the W1000X may not suit, but if you don't mind bright, they'll probably give you what you want - more more "relaxed" than the Grado presentation.
2. Again, no idea on the planar-magnetics, nor the HD 800, but I lived with the HD 580 for ~5 years, and have a number of other fancy-pants models; the short version is that I think the W1000X hold their own. They aren't the final word in anything, but as a total package they're very well rounded, and very competent headphones. Of course personal preference is still a big deal (you can't evaluate things in a "1 to 10" manner, at least not accurately), and you may or may not like their presentation as much as another headphone, but they aren't doing anything naughty when stood up against similarly priced or positioned models.
As far as W1000X + electronic music, it really depends on what kind of electronic music. If you mean the broader genre, including things like trance, house, ambient, glitch, and that sort of thing - the W1000X will do just fine. If you mean modern boom-boom-boom-step, they probably aren't going to satisfy the "bass bass bass" demands (as mshenay pointed out). It's a very broad genre, with a very wide range of sounds. To give some examples of performers (all IMO/IME of course):
The W1000X will do very good with performers like:
The W1000X will not do as well as other options with performers like:
If you want a bassier headphone, I'd look at something like the Ultrasone PRO900 or PRO2900, or perhaps the Kenwood KH-K1000 (which are similarly smooth, but have better low-end performance and less coloration through the mids). This isn't to say the W1000X cannot handle boom-boom music, but I'll agree with Mshenay again that they're better suited to music that favors a rich, smooth sound - *some* electronic music fits into this, some does not.