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post #1291 of 1847

I now have had few days to get accustomed to the sound of w1000x with dx1000 pads.  To say I'm enjoying these a lot is an understatement. I love these! Biggest improvement over stock is improvement in soundstage and imaging. Even though stock w1000x has a good soundstage for a closed can it lacked debth compared to dx1000. Also w1000x imaging abilities were not on par with dx1000. Dx1000 pads on w1000x combine these different presentations. Result is wide, deep and most importantly very real sounding virtual space of sound. Instruments and players are distinctively placed on their on spots. No other headphone has impressed me as much. Not even T1 is capable of such holographic imaging. Atleast not with my system. Only large orchestral pieces make me go for my open back headphones. One another thing worth noting is the soundstage height. W1000x's ability to pick height variations in sound is amazin. It is so good that it makes everything else I've heard sound embarassing. I wasn't especting anything like this. On contrary I was afraid that very deep dx1000 pads would lead into cavernous sound and echo problems. 

 

Bass gained more authority with dx1000 pads. Not that it was lacking stock though..  Amount of air being moved is impressive. Sometimes with organs playing it feels like someone is blowing air to  my ears. Not exactly preferable feeling but it should give one an idea what kind of bass were talking about. I've had similar experiences mostly with sony xb series when headphones are cranked up really loud. I would not call the bass perfect though... It could be more detailed. There is definately issue with resonances which sometimes make bass bit blurred.  I added dampening into the cups to fix this issue but it wasn't a 100% succes. I will continue my experiments. What I did was pretty similar to purrin mod. Quantity-impact-quality ratio is best I've heard so I'm not going to quit now that I'm this close to achieving the "perfect" bass.

 

Mids are allmost unaltered compared to stock. That is great news. Now that these are definately bass oriented headphones it is amazing that mids don't sound recessed. Even though bass is very powerfull it doesn't bleed over other frequences. With vocals here is tad more realism now. Sometimes it's spooky. I was listening to Dire Straits Brothers in arms and singer managed to scare me when he started singing. For lack of better terms it sounded allmost as if it was a binaural recording. These headphones have ability to make great recordings sound even better but equally impressive is how forgiving these are for lesser quality recordings. It has been a while since I've listened to my old heavy metal favorites and and actually enjoyed the sound.

 

Highs are the only drawback of using dx1000 pads. Those are clearly recessed. Adding more dampening to the cups will fix that but some of the bass will be lost in the process. Even though I usually don't eq my headphones I made expection this time. +1db was enough to fix the problem for me. Even with eq I still miss treble presentation of T1. w1000x lacks the air and sparkle.

 

I recommend everyone who has a change to try w1000x with dx1000 pads. Really fun bassy sound but superior imaging makes it much more then just fun. I'm sure people who are not that keen on bassy headphones or have problems with colored (woody sound, resonances, occasional echoes) would not like these. But I do. A lot. I might have found my end game headphones.  :)

post #1292 of 1847

Thanks for the write-up,

I am definitely wanna try velour pads though, as they don't mess with highs and mids, they just tighten up the bass a bit, weakening it a bit obviously.

I'll try the HiFiMAN velour pads [I really liked these with the 900X, but went back to the stock earpads which are okay and I'll rather save the slightly torn velours for the W1000X]

I might also order a bunch of Velour earpads from Ebay + another pair of Hifiman velours :]

post #1293 of 1847

Yeah, I like how highs sound with velours. I wish there were some really thick velour pads. I don't think I've ever seen such. I think that improvements with soundstage and imaging need big pads so that ears are further away from the drivers. Wish I was handy enough to make my own velours big as dx1000 pads. :)

post #1294 of 1847

I don't think it improves with thickness :]

Even if it did, thickness always bring some bass bloat as well, which I don't like :D

The velours do tame the bass somewhat, but not too much... In case of the 900X, it evens it up quite nicely IMO.

The velours sound a lot like the stock pleathers surprisingly so I might alter between these two :D

They are both very similar in size and shape [just enough for my ears].

I am gonna order one additional pair of velours and call it a day, maybe a pair of pleathers too later on :]

post #1295 of 1847

Hmm I might have to try DX1000 Pads, although I had J$ Pads and they cleary dropped the mids imo. although I didn't spent to much time comparing the sound stage depth and heeight, either way the Shallow L3000 Pads have a great sense of depth as well! It spooks me from time to time as well! 

post #1296 of 1847
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

Hmm I might have to try DX1000 Pads, although I had J$ Pads and they cleary dropped the mids imo. although I didn't spent to much time comparing the sound stage depth and heeight, either way the Shallow L3000 Pads have a great sense of depth as well! It spooks me from time to time as well! 

I have a feeling the DX1000 pads might not be what I am looking for :D

post #1297 of 1847
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post
 

Hmm I might have to try DX1000 Pads, although I had J$ Pads and they cleary dropped the mids imo. although I didn't spent to much time comparing the sound stage depth and heeight, either way the Shallow L3000 Pads have a great sense of depth as well! It spooks me from time to time as well! 

 

Which J$ pads?

post #1298 of 1847
L3000 pads ordered and headphones not even shipped yet, you guys better be right wink.gif
post #1299 of 1847
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Which J$ pads?

They aren't available anymore :/

post #1300 of 1847

Are the L3000 earpads same in hole diameter as the A900X? [Which means bigger than W1000X pads]

post #1301 of 1847
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Originally Posted by conquerator2 View Post
 

They aren't available anymore :/

I know, I just got a pair off another head-fier. I was just wondering which J$ pads mshenay was talking about since there are several variations.

post #1302 of 1847
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I know, I just got a pair off another head-fier. I was just wondering which J$ pads mshenay was talking about since there are several variations.

JMoney Beyers are only one.

post #1303 of 1847
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Originally Posted by monkeyboylee View Post

L3000 pads ordered and headphones not even shipped yet, you guys better be right wink.gif

I did the same thing with my W1000x, got the pads before the headphone arrived  

post #1304 of 1847
Can anyone post a picture.of them please?
post #1305 of 1847

Ok, So now I have a pair of HiFiMAN deep gray black velours, a pair of A900X stock pads, a pair of AD5XX/7XX velour and leather pads [these suck in terms of SQ but rock for comfort...]

With a pair of HiFiMAN black velours and protein leathers on the way :D

That should set me up well, avoiding the $99 L3000 pads or DX1000 pads :D

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